And mine isn't by march, I used all ford parts spent $70 total for belt and new tensioner, check it out in my gallery. More pics soon, fuel pump block off plate is on, intake is being done right now, rail is a 351W, my engine harness is done, too cold to deal with going out and doing the computer side of the harness right now. ZF is in the barn waiting to have the M5OD out. To thoes that have seen the posts yes it is staying OBD-II, running without EGR, and having the tranny controls turned off with the controller I am running.

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Curtis

 

wow nice job, i have debated a 400 in my 89, nice job, keeep us posted on how it runs, i'd also like to know how it tows but as it is in a short box reg cab, i will guess it isnt a tow rig, or is it? mind sharing what you did for mounts and what your zf trans was originally behind. seems to be lots of differences in the facts to what mounts and bellhousings are shared around the ford family. thanks. Dan

 

Well as it is right now it is undecided I just hated seeing that 400 sitting doing nothing in the 77 chassis. It has 250 leafs in back so it will handle some weight the 8.8 might have other things to say in the end. The 400 is a real tq monster as it was with a carb that needed jetted, with efi i'm worried that 77 was a rocket that 92 is lighter 5speed is better ratios so good bye 33s as they melt away. Well being the early 80s came with the Mblocks we are on the thought pattern of they didn't change that( fingers crossed). The ZF came from a 89 f250 4x4 460 I have had numerous people that did the 400 to 460 swap and visversa tell me they never needed diffrent depths with the 4speeds so again fingers crossed and if not I know how to modify. Being I work on chevys for a living i'm not scared of "well that isn't right". And mind you guys I work full time(usually over 50hrs. aweek and other side projects for other people-408W in a 98 f150 4x4 coming up- so progress has been steady but slow) I'm 23 and I feel older.

Curtis

 

OK, time to give us ALL the details/ part numbers of your serpentine conversion. I have been wanting to do this for a LONG time and NOBODY but you seems to know how to do it. More pic's ASAP!!!

 

Thats the longest belt I have ever seen !

 

Awesome idea. I like the idea of an SEFI on a 400. But, where do you start with the baseline fuel programs? OBD II is great to make those needed adjustments, but I guess you have to research the injector sizes?
Speaking of, what intake manifold did you use with the 351W rail? Was it drilled and tapped for injectors already, like the version from Holley?

 

Okay, here we go...
Brackets are from a 95 351W F/E line, Caution you will have 2 bolts in each side. Drivers side you will have to hog out one hole and it will bolt down. passenger side you will have to pop the one thermactor plug out and use a 7/16x? heli-coil(garage is cold and I just got off work) and the passenger side is done, I made a bracket to go from the water pump 2 threaded holes to the smog pump top bolt hole for extra stability. Same with drivers side used a prexisting hole and a bracket to a threaded hole for the water pump. That same hole for drivers on the water pump was the same for the idler mount.

Water pump grooved pulley comes from a mid 80s grand marquies, you will have to press this out the pulley concaves in so when you put it on the pulley will stick way too far out, press it and make it sit right and proper to the depth that it needs to be(caution use a exact inside dia. as the water pump bolting area or yours will be off like mine is, slight wobble not bad).

Mark I am sorry to inform you that belt is 100" the one on my 96 F150 351 is 102.5" and it may grow, with these brackets the tensioner set up seems to require the smog pump or eliminator bracket and pulley like on my 96 as of right now the belt has perfect tension but is maxed out on the tensioner, the older style brackets have the tensioner up above the alt and I feel that they might work out better.

My intake is a Holley street dominator, I am using 351w fuel rail and my machinist is putting extra alum. into the intake and making the bungs right in there not buying them, most good shops I found will do the injector bungs for around $350-400 from the ones I talked to. My guy does alot of special machine work for my work on loaders and that, also a 400 guru himself he gladly wanted to do them for me.
My computer When I began this project on the 92 I had the full intentions of using my 351w I went throught and bearinged, ringed, everything but the machine shop, but decided against it due to my 400 just sitting doing nothing brand new. I found that OBD-1 to OBD-II they had the harness for me well come to find out after trying to contact them many times after I already purchased my processor they never called, emailed so I am doing my own harness. Having the place I am getting my tuner from turn off the transmission controls so it will not search for the PRND21. I am using 30lb injectors with 90mm 2nd gen lightning mass air. For throttle body I went with a 4.6 elbow(03ish), 70mm throttle body stock on there.
The OBD-II 351 processor looks scary but its dang near the same as the eec-iv just has 3 o2s, maf, no thermactor, I took my 92 factory engine harness removed the things I wasnt using and tied thoes wires into injectors and maked what injector to where they need to go for pins on the computer and that part is done solidered it all up and my engine harness is SEFI now.

Curtis
P.S. I'll go out and get more pics. Check out the gallery pics are up.

 

Take a look at this site: www.massfloefi.com. Take a look at my gallery. I like your idea on the serp. belt. I'd like to do that to mine but body and paint comes first.

 

Gary that is a sweet looking set up but way out of my price range for efi. so far my total goes like this
MUG4 processor(96 351)-$130
intake-$130
fuel rail-free from my doner van
intake elbow-free from derby car at my work
30lb injectors-$240
Dirty Racing OBD-II Special Forces tuner/controller- $389
2nd Gen lightning MAF-$100
OEM MAF to intake connector air tube-$80
Cost for injector bungs-??? haven't recieved it back yet
I like your set up also but too much for me plus all mine is oem so if it goes bad on the road all parts stores carry what I need.

Curtis

 

Curtis, I agree, it's costly. But I wasn't confident with my abilities of putting a system together from scratch. As for parts, it uses a Mustang A9L computer, standard 24lb. injectors, a 351w dizzy with a drive gear change, Mustang coil, and a GM mass flo sensor. The MAP is Ford as is the idle air control and the throttle position sensor. Theroetically I should be able to pick up all parts at a parts store. Hope I don't have to do that. Believe it or not, my biggest headach is the fuel supply system. I have a dual tank truck and it's been complicated and problematic.

 

Gary doesn't sound too bad then, as for your fuel delivery problems why not look into the 94-96( i say 94 due to the earlier had issues with dumping fuel into the emptier tank) f150 dual tank set up lines and all fairly simple easy to get parts for and direct replacement.

Curtis

 

Believe it or not, that is exactally what I'm doing. It is just a matter of doing it.

 

I know it has been awhile, I have not stopped just been busy.
So far I have my new flywheel for it and 12" clutch found out the 351M and 400 use 2 diffrent flywheels and clutches both are in the garage, the 460 clutch set is on its way( had to use that clutch disc and throwout bearing for the ZF swap 1 1/6" vs 1 1/4" shafts).
Starter is there stock 460 92-98 style mini gear reduction.
TFI Dizzy is in, I just went and got a new one new bushings and all better off than one that is wore out.
My intake is in the works talked to him on thursday, he has all the engineering done on it drilling and tapping the intake for a set of screw in injector bungs he is machining then welding them in, along with the tabs for the rail hold downs, and making the base flat vs. the 7degree forward slant with a carb.
From a old post found out my ticking in the valvetrain everything is in spec for the way ford wants it, I found out the way I had did the torque procedure wasn't the specified way to do it. I did it how they wanted it and we will find out if it did it, if not oils, or a faulty lifter.
Smog pump eliminator pulley and plate are ordered too, trying to correct the tensioner from maxing out, if you look at the pics it can go as far over as it wants there is nothing behind it to stop it, just going to the crank so this will fix that problem, probibly going to take my belt lengh from 100" to 103-104".
I pulled the whole front harness off of the truck(92) and brought it in cut my old computer plug and soldiered each wire to where they needed to be and added my mass air wires and data link communicator wires, really easy to do all together just have to add one o2 sensor harness that will be done when it is in the truck so the lenght is right.

Curtis

 

new pics in gallery serpentine is done!