i just filled my truck up with b20 for the first time, $81 worth. its about 30 outside so i hope it don't gel up, but my father raises soybeans so will be supportin him and the rest of the american farmers for now on. b20 from now on.

 

I am not knocking it by any means, and I have not tried it in my truck. But from what I have read here, you should keep some fuel filters with you as it will brake down the build up from diesel in the tank and lines. Also, I am in Florida and use an additive to my diesel.....Walmart DIESILE KLEEN.

More power to you!!! IMHO, it will take many forms of alt. fuels to fix our mess. There is not just one fix for this. On a trip to Ohio, for Christmas with my family, I got to talking about my MB running on WVO and to make a long story short, find out that the BIO plant going up near by has plans to import corn if the prices climb much higher. Think about that, import, barge up the Miss river-Ohio river, truck from there to the plant......for cheaper. God bless and help our Farmers!!!!

 

I agree with hotwheels keep an extra filter on board for the junk that will be cleaned from the tank and lines etc.. because some have experienced clogged filters and I sure wouldn't want you be stranded.

 

B20 is all I ever use anymore. It's the best of both worlds, IMO.

 

Dan you use b20 to tow with? Do you use a additive or does it have enough in it already? Can you explain what you meant by "best of both worlds". I been thinking about b-20 but couldn't find enough info about towing. Can you also run one tank of diesel then b20 then diesel again without screwing anything up. Just curious not sure if in my travels that b20 will be available everywhere. Thanks

 

I used B-20 for the final trip out last fall with the boys to Idaho from Seattle, WA. The Transfer Flow tank is big enough to allow me to fill it up at home and have enough fuel for both ways and them some. No issues whatsoever.

 

I ran B-20 a few weeks ago it helped my MPG out and quietened the truck down a bit. It was the same price as diesel and it was in the teens and never gave me any problems. I just through a bit more diesel clean in there.

 

Bio in B20 and up will be more lubricating than the Low Sulfer Diesel and even the old High Sulfer Diesel, to the injectors. Always less diesel noise. But Bio will gell sooner that Diesel will. Add the White Diesel Kleen or even 5 percent gasoline will help in low temps. Bio in any % is all good, no bad at all. If you are going to run it from now on, you will not have to worry about the filters after a tank or two, but think about an after market main line water sep/filter for later on. It would be cheaper in the long run.
As I said, I have not run it in my truck, because of cost and location. But man have I read up on it!!!!!!
Usfull site.........http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/retailfuelingsites/

 

I had no problems with filters when I started running soy bio, but I don't run it full time. I ran a tank of B20, then a tank or two of dino, then a couple tanks of B100 on & off. I'd run it more often if I lived or worked closer to a BD place.

FYI, the sulfur isn't the lubricant, but the process of removing sulfur also removes the lubricants. They *say* they add it back, but to me it's obvious by how much quieter the engine is that there is a distinct difference. How much, I can't say. That is the $100,000 question...

 

Yes you can tow with it.

You do not need a lubricity additive. A cetane additive is a matter of personal preference. A gel point additive may be required depending on outside temps.

You can switch back and forth between bio & dino as often as you like with no consequences. You can even switch if you fill up with 1/2 tank. All it does is vary the percent of Bio. You will be somewhere between B0 - B100 depending on what you add.

No B20 will probably not be available most places you go, but as mentioned just use it when it's convenient.

 

I run B50 here in East Tennessee and have not had any gelling problems with some of the temps. thus far - not really cold yet.
I have run B20 in years past just fine.
With most of our fuel tanks being plastic I don't see problems with the fuel filter clogging unless the fuel system has been seriously neglected.
I run a Dahl filter adjacent to the fuel tank and have not experienced any filter issues with it or the OEM filter.
I will continue to use the bio especially with the 15ppm diesel - I do not trust these guys to provide fuel with good lubricants.
I just do not like depending on the Fed's to take care of my truck fuel or anything else.

Do not be afraid of using the B20 fuels.

 

Your lucky down there, I live above Knoxville and my closest bio is Maryville which is a big bio diesel city over 10 stations carry it but its 50 miles away so lucky my Inlaws live down there so I get brownie points with the wife because I always want to go see my inlaws and fuel up with B-20. Is it any cheaper down there because up here it is the same price as reg for b-20 and B-99 was 11 cent hire.

 

You do not need a cetane additive with bio, bio is considered a cetane additive itself and increases the cetane of almost all commercial diesel.
As to the gel point B100 clouds around 40 degrees (did this testing in my fridge with my homemade bio and with some commercial that I got from a local distributor just to verify my finding) mix it to B80 was good to around 20 degrees B50 wouldn't gel in my freezer at 0 although was beginning to cloud slightly.

As to towing with it, I tow my race truck constantly during the summer and i run B100 and it tows great, I have towed as much as 15,000lbs + (look in my gallery at the fire truck pics I was running B50 when I towed that)

 

Unless you are using some sort of high tech sound filtering system, how do you know that the lubricity has any effect on the engine? With the Regulated Return and the BTS BO system, I have noticed how quiet the engine is. Are you telling me that those 2 systems changed the lubrication? What about with my F5 chip? I can hear the difference between stock and 80HP Econo. Stock is quieter. Did I change the lubricity by going back to stock?

I think what you are hearing is the change of the combustion charisterics.

 

I'm on the BIO train too. B05 or B20 depending on the station I fill up at. Ran up to South Dakota this Christmas with B20 & diesel additive - had no problems when it was @ 15 degrees.

Aklim,

It's not the added lubricity that makes the engine run quieter, but when you run bio diesel you can definitely hear the difference in the sound of the engine. Less cackle or something. Anyhow, biodiesel (as low as 2%) adds lubricity to diesel fuel and test results have shown it to reduce the wear scar below 460 microns and protect the injectors & fuel system. Now having said that, you need to get a good quality biodiesel - since biodiesel retains water more than diesel and if equipment sits for a few months you could have some issues.

You are not changing the lubricity by changing the tune you are running. The sound difference you notice from the fuel system upgrades is getting rid of the air in the system and feeding the engine better than the stock set up.

The issue at hand is the new ULSD and how it is drier than LSD. They are supposed to add lubrication additives at the terminal or jobber (since it is not being done at the refinery) to bring the fuel up to the federal standard. The bottom line is if you do not get the proper lubrication you will increase the wear in your fuel system and injectors. Biodiesel and/or diesel additives is needed to protect your equipment.