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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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2 speed rear end question

Is the ratio of a two speed rear end in high range higher than a stock ratio (like an overdrive) or is the low range lower for pulling? I have a stock 56 F-350 which as you know is severely limited on the top end. Would a two speed axle give me more speed. I am talking about a rear end like might have been available in the 55-59 heavy trucks.

Although I am not currently in a position to aquire, here is a likely candidate, hate to see this one junked, I've seen a lot worse resurrected.
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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I can't remember the ratio exactly of my 56 F600 2 speed rearend. I would describe it as a low range and a lower range. 5.?? and 8.?? are the ratios. Someone will be along shortly with exact numbers.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 07:29 PM
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My High Range is 5:83. Mated with 9R-22.5" Radial tires and Solid Rims, I can get 65 mph. Screamin' though.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 10:48 PM
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Reamer is right.

Most of them were 5.83 and 8.11:1

That rear end wouldn't work in a F3/350 though unless you could find hubs that would mate to the wheels you have.

Ring and pinions for that rear end are almost non-existent.


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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 09:30 AM
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and unless you use 36" tall tiires your RPMS will be higher than it would be on the bigger truck.
 
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My tires are about 40" diameter.

At that diameter I calculate 504 rear wheel rpm at 60mph which, at 5.83:1 is 2938 rpm.

With the 0.71 OD my E4OD has I would have 2086 rpm at 60.

Even with a 2 speed an OD is nice.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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Thanks all, (as usual) I had not considered the different bolt pattern and taller tires of the F-600. My other hobby is cross state bicycling, guess the stock F350 gearing would be a little faster than that if I ever decide to go anywhere with it.
I do have a line on a cheap Gear Vendor OD unit, doubt if they make an adaptor for my setup though.
I bought the '56 on a whim after owning an F-100 in my 'ute, I did not realize how badly I really needed it and how much fun it was going to be.
Thanks again.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2008 | 11:47 AM
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I do have a line on a cheap Gear Vendor OD unit, doubt if they make an adaptor for my setup though.
What tranny is in that '56? If there is no adapter you may be able to do a divorced setup, where you have a short drive shaft between the tranny and GV, then another drive shaft from GV to rear end. I've seen more than a couple like that.
 
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Originally Posted by GVJosh
What tranny is in that '56? If there is no adapter you may be able to do a divorced setup, where you have a short drive shaft between the tranny and GV, then another drive shaft from GV to rear end. I've seen more than a couple like that.
Good idea, my 350 does have the two piece driveshaft. I'll have to eye-ball it with the GV in mind. Is a divorced setup kind of like treating it like a transfer case?
I noticed in my '56 shop manual that a 5 speed OD was available in the heavier trucks, the chance of finding one of those would be pretty remote I suppose, plus I'd get greater reduction with the GV.
 
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A divorced (GV calls it a remote or RX) is basicaly the same as a married, except it mounts in a cage of sorts and replaces your carrier bearing. It will have and input and out put yoke. I've seen the RX units on everything from a 41 Packard to newer trucks. Give Gear Vendors a call and they can hammer out the details for you.
 
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I just found a Watson "brownie box" OD on ebay. I can now remove the carrier bering, and place this in-line there, (cut a cut in teh driveshalf of couse)
 
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