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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 10:33 PM
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Gutting the EBPV, bigger intercooler (the big DIIC) & a larger housing (1.0 or 1.15) will all reduce your EGT's. But before you start dumping any $ do what Kris suggested and also get rid of the K & N before you dust that turbo.

Your boost #'s are not low so it does not seem like you have a boost leak at all.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 10:33 PM
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How much black smoke are you getting at the tailpipe under hard acceleration?

On edit, I agree with Rich, boost is there, I am not familiar with the HTT so I dont know what the A/R is off hand but it may not be big enough
 

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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by white Buffalo
Gutting the EBPV, bigger intercooler (the big DIIC) & a larger housing (1.0 or 1.15) will all reduce your EGT's. But before you start dumping any $ do what Kris suggested and also get rid of the K & N before you dust that turbo.

Your boost #'s are not low so it does not seem like you have a boost leak at all.
When did i suggest losing the K&N air filter? I dont recall but you WERE reading my mind.

Also, check the passenger side exhaust manifold. There's a tube exiting out the front going to a sensor behind the belt on the front of the engine. Remove the tube, clean it out( will be a beotch to do) and clean out the sensor.. Should help mileage.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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What altitude are you at in CA?
 
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 01:11 AM
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First of all I think you are expecting to much at low rpm. At that low of an RPM there is no chance for boost so your egt's are going to climb. Second I think you might have a boost leak. I had similar problems on my trip around Alaska with a 7000lb trailer and I found a my clamps that I thought were tight were not. Towing a trailer your RPMS should be in 1800-2400. Maybe I am just reading this wrong?
 
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by strokin_it7.3
What is the maximum boost you can see on a hard run in the extreme setting?
(I have olny had it to #3-tow 60 hp!!!
 
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by white Buffalo
Gutting the EBPV, bigger intercooler (the big DIIC) & a larger housing (1.0 or 1.15) will all reduce your EGT's. But before you start dumping any $ do what Kris suggested and also get rid of the K & N before you dust that turbo.

Your boost #'s are not low so it does not seem like you have a boost leak at all.
the turbo is from high tech turbo it has a 1.0 hsg and a 88mm compressor!!
 
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by strokin_it7.3
When did i suggest losing the K&N air filter? I dont recall but you WERE reading my mind.

Also, check the passenger side exhaust manifold. There's a tube exiting out the front going to a sensor behind the belt on the front of the engine. Remove the tube, clean it out( will be a beotch to do) and clean out the sensor.. Should help mileage.
I have cleaned the manifold tube to the sensor aswell!!!!
 
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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What altitude are you at in CA?
I am at about 1000' to 1200' I live in nor. cal. above sacramento!!!
 
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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How much black smoke are you getting at the tailpipe under hard acceleration?

On edit, I agree with Rich, boost is there, I am not familiar with the HTT so I dont know what the A/R is off hand but it may not be big enough
It's not dark black more like dark charcole!!!!
 
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 08:23 PM
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OK, I'm getting confused now. So let's start from the begining for my sake and just to clarify a few things.

1) you are seeing high EGT's when towing you 5th wheel.
2) you a running 28-30 lbs of boost & using the 60+ hp edge tune
3) which means are are giving her the full throttle on a 60 hp edge tune
4) You have big tires & a 6" lift
5) Altitude is 1,000 feet - not a big deal but the grades could be.

first, how did you get your fifth wheel hooked up which such a high lift kit. Got a lift on the camper? Flip the axles? Is the camper riding a nose up angle?

2nd. When you tow are you hitting the OD off button or are you shifting to OD at about 45 mph and 1600 rpm? I used to hit the OD off button until I got her up to 50 mph then let it shift to OD. Let's the rpm rise a little higher and keep the engine from lugging & raising EGT's. Keeping it about 2K rpm's and above seems to be the best. Down the road when you decide to get a custom chip you can have the OD shift point set to 50 mph so you do not need to fool with the OD button as much.

3rd, I know you need about 20 posts before you can add a signature but in order for folks to help, go ahead and post all of your mods on one post so we all know what your setup is instead of running around the thread.

4th, If you are only running a 60 hp tune and your EGT's are 1300 it seems that you are not getting enough air. But if you are hitting 28-30 lbs of boost than that should be enough air. Does your 4" exhaust have a restrictive muffler or a see through type one like MBRP? A 60 HP tune should not blow that much smoke unless you have restriction in the air flow. Is it possible there is a 10K mod or something installed when you bought it and now you have the programmers stacked? I'm just guessing now...

Sorry to ask so many quastions but I'm trying to understand the situation better.
 

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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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Sorry I didn't mean to get you confussed..Okay here it goes,I have a 2003 F250 4x4 supercab short bed w/an automatic. I also have 6" lift and 35" tires 413 gears and ARB lockers.I bought the truck used w/52,000 miles on it, and it came with the high tech turbo with the 1.00 t.hsg and 88 mm compressor.The baseline actuator setting is 20 lbs.It also seems to have had the transmission reprogramed. After I bought it then towed my trailer the perometer after the turbo read over 1200 on a light pull.
I bought the edge w/attitude and installed it w/the new perometer in the drivers side manifold. I ran it on three or four different setting w/no change except for HP.
As to your questions, I live at 1000 foot elevation, but I pull over 7000 feet.
It dosn't matter weather I'm pulling loaded or not, the EGT's are still as high.I have to drop gears and let the defueler come in and then I loose my momentum.I have ran as high as 32 lbs. of boost on number 3, and pulling it up to 3200 RPM, but not for long!
I know that I should get a DP, but I thought I would try here first.I have done the CV mode, cleaned the exhust tube and replaced the donuts on the up pipes.As well as the hoses, and clamps on the intercooler tubes and Y manifold. Also drained and cleaned the intercooler.I have a K&N cold air intake and filter, and a 4" flow through tubo back exhust. The ford dealer say's the fuel pressures are up as well as the high pressure oil pump.They also replaced two marginal injectors.So ther you have it! Hope this helps...Thanks for all of yours. Doug
 
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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OK, so the truck had all the mods on it when you purchased it. Except for the edge, which you installed after the purchase. Do you know if the truck has had the PCM reprogrammed for all the mods or did it have a chip or tuner in it before you programmed it?
 
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 09:31 PM
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I have a friend at ford and he said it doe'st look like it has ben programmed but the trans shift's hard and that may be he can't pick it up... but we also check for a chip but was none!!!! I also though about reflashing the pcm but I might lose the trans prog... I though I would try this be for I wipe out the pcm!!!!!
 
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 09:47 PM
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I could easily be wrong. But I doubt the truck was not running a tune/program with all those other mods done by the previous owner. The tranny could be shifting firmer from a Valve Body upgrade in the tranny or by the program. Don't worry about the program, most generic off the shelf tuners increase the line pressure in the tranny which is not good for the long run. It's better to adjust the shifts mechanically, i.e. valve body/shift kit.

If the truck runs high EGT's with the edge removed I would be suspicious that the PCM was flashed/programmed. Even though there might not be a chip present on the front end of the PCM doesn't mean it hasn't been reprogrammed. A stock program will not run high EGT's or blow smoke unless there is a boost problem.

How did the truck run with the edge removed? A stock program with those size tires should have been pretty sluggish since stock the 7.3L is around 220 hp.
 

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