i have recently got my d.b. on a 460 1979 out of a linc.cont.i'm going to put it in my 78 f150 4x4 with 38.5 boggers ,my buddy has a 429. everybody say's that the 429 will stop my 460. so i ask the ford gods? if so what do i need to tweek it into a 429 eater .. or if i can't beatem ??? should i join em??? i can handle the truth so lay it on me ..and why also please.. thanx ...pround owner of a ford tattoo

 

Your 460 is so under power it isn't funny if it is all stock for 1978. Words of advice.... Change the cam, port the heads, gasket match the intake and heads, and put headers on it. This is only the begining. To truely bring your engine alive you will end up spending roughly $2500.00 Meaning machine work and balancing, new pistons, conrods, head work, main girdle, valves, valve springs, and so on. Chances are your friend has a late 60's 429. With that being said he has a way higher compression then your whimpy 8-1 CR. Plus he has the advantage of still having an agressive cam profile from the factory. While you have the SMOG era and gas crunch engine. But don't take my word for it. Just let him know that you are running it to see what it can do with a severe handicap. Then once you rework it challenge him again. If he backs out just remind him you ran him despite your under powered engine and pull his punk card. Good luck.

 

If all parts were equall...a 460 would stomp a 429. Cubic inches still rule, you just have to make sure you build your 460 to match his 429...same or higher compression, aftermarket cam, aftermarket intake/carb, etc. in other words ditto what airharley said. Also, if your going to dragrace him I'd drop those 38.5 boggers, unless your running 4.56 or steeper gears. Deen

 

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 01-Jan-03 AT 07:49 AM (EST)]i would like to thank deen and mark for your advice and wisdom, on this matter . thank's for bringing my IGNORANCE level down a couple ,,,,,well at least 1 notch.. one more ? should i just take this 2500.00 and buy a late 60's 429.. or stick it in and break it off.. if you were me ????w.w.u.d. p.s. i want the bragging right's ,i'm in no rush, i'll eat crow =429 ,or should this 460 breath.. given i do the right reman.. witch will happen.= i'll let a pro do it ''thank's,,,THE ROOKIE..

 

Honestly do a little research and souls searching for what you want your engine to do for you. Building it up will cost you a few dollars more a week at the pump. Personally build the 460. $2500 is a very small price to pay for a rebuild. Call a few machine shops and see what they have to say as far as price goes. If they tell you what they want to build for you then walk away. They should ask some key information before you listen to them. If they only want to build a speed engine without your imput then they are not who you want to talk to or have build your engine. I found a guy here who literally just spent the last 2 hours with me going over part selection and differances in parts. Not to mention other stuff but he was willing to walk me through a bunch of stuff I wanted to know. Not just sit with his head cocked to the side and act like a giant turd. Get my drift? I am building my engine to have a bullet proof lower end. Hence the major costs in machine work. I plan on adding more stuff to the upper end at a later time. ie... better heads and a bigger cam. You could very easily get a way with a upper end rebuild for the time being and maybe spend $1000 on parts swapping. But in the long run you will end up having to tear it all down again if the lower end wasn't up to the punishment you are going to put on it. Make sure you match all your components. Don't put a Victor series intake on stock heads, 1050 carb on a stock itake, or expect a high reving engine with a stock cam and exhaust manifolds after you changed out the intake. The machine shop will let you know what goes with what. If not email me and I can go through it with you. Hope this helps you go down the ground shaking, heart pounding, white knuckled path.

 

 

As Mark said, find a machine shop that will work with you. The least expensive way to rebuild one, if you don't want to do it yourself, is to have the shop do everything but you supply the parts. You can save a considerable amount of money doing that as the shops can't compete with the low margin mail order companies. If the machine shop is decent, they'll even give you a list of what they'll need for assembly after they determine block and crank machining requirements. Forget the 429, they're for restorers, puritans and people stuck with them.

 

thank's again , i've been doing a little matching up pro's and con's, and from what i can tell i to agree with the right combo of lower and uper end rebuild. ican make a 429 eating white knuckle tourqing machine.thank's for your attitude and imput. so let the fun begin, i plan on doing some of the easier work, why not i got to start somewhere , beside's it's only money ...right well thank's again. i'll let ya know how i come out ...460 OR BUST FRK A.K.A. the rookie