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You can run straight bio if you like, as long as its warm enough. Just be ready to change your fuel filter. Bio D cleans the fuel system and will clog a filter or two really quickly.
Just be ready to change your fuel filter. Bio D cleans the fuel system and will clog a filter or two really quickly.
For the first few tanks, as a rule, yes. For instance, with my truck, I could run B100 all day long and not worry. Why? Because when I did the hutch and harpoon mod, I noticed the tank was clean as a whistle. I could run B100 tomorrow and not worry about it.
I have those mods here waiting to install... Should I run B20 until I do? and plan a filter change soon?
Few tanks of B20 then a 50% B99 mix and then B99 when mods are done?
If it were me, I would wait. You see, the problem with the stock fuel system is that while the filter is easy to get to, there is a "pre-filter" that sits in the tank. If that gets crudded up, you are screwed and have to drop the tank. That is why I bought the kit from ITP. It removes the entire mixing chamber where the filters are. I had a little crud in the chamber myself. I took off the strainer filter too. This will make it so that all fuel goes to the external "pre-filter". Should any crud get there, I would dump that external filter and replace it with a new one and move on. That is a common filter too
I have yet to do my tank mods, but I found a statation near me that will sell me off road diesel, which is suposed to be the same and Diesel #2 and has B20 bio D.
I bought 5 gal and added it to my 14 gal already in the truck.
Things seem really smoth and the truck is running great. I do plan a fuel filter chnage inthe next 2 weeks though the filter only has 4000 miles on it just to keep things clear. Im hoping to get away with 5gal of Bio D per 15 Gal of #2.
Is this a really bad idea?
I will change the filter soon, and I do have the parts for the fuel system upgrade... just not extra time for 3 weeks to do it. I love the idea of interchanging Bio 2 for #2.
I have yet to do my tank mods, but I found a statation near me that will sell me off road diesel, which is suposed to be the same and Diesel #2 and has B20 bio D.
I bought 5 gal and added it to my 14 gal already in the truck.
Things seem really smoth and the truck is running great. I do plan a fuel filter chnage inthe next 2 weeks though the filter only has 4000 miles on it just to keep things clear. Im hoping to get away with 5gal of Bio D per 15 Gal of #2.
Is this a really bad idea?
I will change the filter soon, and I do have the parts for the fuel system upgrade... just not extra time for 3 weeks to do it. I love the idea of interchanging Bio 2 for #2.
Yes, it has red dye but other than that it is D2 or in this case B20. Either way it has the red dye for Off Road. If you get caught using it, you will be having to set up a paypal account and asking us to make donations to your legal defense fund. I would advise AGAINST using off road diesel. It is cheaper because you don't pay road tax but it is for Ag use only.
Like I said, why bother with Bio at this point? You are soon going to do the mods. If you are 6 months away, I would say risk it. In 3 weeks you will KNOW the status of your tank. At that point, you can run it without any worries. What is 3 weeks going to do for you? I mean, if you are getting the Bio free, go for it. Worth the risk of a plugged filter. If not, I'd wait.
I second the post on the AG diesel. My buddy was running it because he didn't want to use ULSD. I told him it was illegal, but he just laughed and said "whoes ever gonna look in my tank"... a couple weeks later he was fueling up and just dumb luck a State trooper was going by and I guess he was bored because he came back and to make a long story short the tax guys get really upset when you try to cheat them and the Judge gets really upset when you try to play dumb especially when there's a big sticker on the pump and for what he spent in legal fees and fines he could have bought A LOT of diesel. Just my two cents, take it or leave it. As far as the filter change, don't do it unless you feel the truck is starving or have some other symtom of clogging. The Bio D will clean out you tank and other components of the fuel system, but you might not have that much crud to start with and what you have might just break down and pass through. Filters aren't terribly expensive, but they're not free either and you might not need to spend the money. Again, just my 2C
I second the post on the AG diesel. My buddy was running it because he didn't want to use ULSD. I told him it was illegal, but he just laughed and said "whoes ever gonna look in my tank"... a couple weeks later he was fueling up and just dumb luck a State trooper was going by and I guess he was bored because he came back and to make a long story short the tax guys get really upset when you try to cheat them and the Judge gets really upset when you try to play dumb especially when there's a big sticker on the pump and for what he spent in legal fees and fines he could have bought A LOT of diesel. Just my two cents, take it or leave it.
As far as the filter change, don't do it unless you feel the truck is starving or have some other symtom of clogging. The Bio D will clean out you tank and other components of the fuel system, but you might not have that much crud to start with and what you have might just break down and pass through. Filters aren't terribly expensive, but they're not free either and you might not need to spend the money. Again, just my 2C
Guess they bent him over. Hope you lent him some KY too.
That is why I said to wait 3 weeks before risking having the thing clog up
Im not convinced I want off road Diesel... There is some bebate as to if it is LSD or ULSD. Either way I do like the bio D. Ive driven 50 miles and everything seems good. I want to run B20 to keep things lubed and clean. Id rather rather carry my filter and be praparied... Long story short, I like including B20 and cant wait to switch full B20.
After several tanks of mixed can I switch to straight B20 without tank mods?
With Tank mods can we use B99?
Im not convinced I want off road Diesel... There is some bebate as to if it is LSD or ULSD. Either way I do like the bio D. Ive driven 50 miles and everything seems good. I want to run B20 to keep things lubed and clean. Id rather rather carry my filter and be praparied... Long story short, I like including B20 and cant wait to switch full B20.
After several tanks of mixed can I switch to straight B20 without tank mods?
With Tank mods can we use B99?
Thanx for all the input.
Hope you aren't driving an Excursion. I have a 44 gal tank and they base the fine on that. You can have LSD in Ag fuel for a while more.
They haven't really shown the need for additives yet. Just some fear mongering. Look at the reports. Why use raw ULSD? They say it is the "worst case scenario". IMO, there is also a scare factor there. True, there were problems when it first came out. However, when LSD came out initially, weren't there problems? Doesn't anything on that scale have problem initially? All those "tests" tell you is that manufacturers want a lower wear scar and they allude to "more is better" in terms of lubricity. A manufacturer wants anything AT YOUR EXPENSE that will give you a few more miles and put you out of warranty range. If you get 5000 miles, you might be out of warranty. On their scale it is a good idea. Yes, if it gets more miles out of an engine it saves you money. However, they haven't run a comparison yet that shows me how much I will save. So, if I save $1000 from the extra distance the motor can go but I spend $5000 in additives, is it worth it?
Your truck doesn't know the concept of "more is better". On 10 gals of fuel, I go 150 miles. On 44 gals of fuel I go 660 miles. Dump 50 gals and you have 6 on the floor. More isn't always better. They don't address what the engine needs in that test from a consumer standpoint. Show me how much more life I will have with my injectors and fuel pump, etc, etc and we can do the equations. Other than that, their tests are just meaningless numbers.
I put Bio D in my tank not Off road Diesel.
I do have a mini tractor I could use it on... but like the idea of Bio Diesel in eveything far more than price.
I do know my good friends 6.9 ran wonderful on farm Diesel for years.... sounded like crap, but thats a different issue :-). Im hoping Bio D will help the egine run cleaner and keep the internal parts better lubed.
As for addatives on top of a Bio D mix or straight Bio D... I couldnt say.