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Good qusetion. I had to sign saying I wouldn't use chains on my 08 F250. I don't understand why, do they want you to use cables?
Hmm, first I've heard of this on Superduty. But I had to sign the same thing on an '04 F150. I just signed and let it go, figuring I would do whatever the hell I wanted. But when I went to test fit chains on it I found that there was not good clearance for chains. In the rear the shocks are outside the leaf springs, and in the front the A-arms were too close. This was with stock Conti tires too. There was barely space to use cable chains. So the point is, take a look at your '08 SD and make sure there is enough clearance for standard chains. Might not be.
Ok I looked and basically the paper says do not run chains and to refer to the owners manual. I looked in the manual and it says do not run chains on the front wheels that are 20", also to use only SAE class S chains.
The dealer would not release the truck without the paper signed. I told them it was stupid and they agreed but said that is the policy.
Ok I looked and basically the paper says do not run chains and to refer to the owners manual. I looked in the manual and it says do not run chains on the front wheels that are 20", also to use only SAE class S chains.
The dealer would not release the truck without the paper signed. I told them it was stupid and they agreed but said that is the policy.
But the question for me would be whether they will safely fit. On the F150, there was IIRC only about 1.5 or 2" of clearance. Not enough to safely clear a flopping chain. If they clear safely on an SD I would use heavy duty chains no matter what the manual says. After all, it's not like your warranty was ever going to cover chain damage anyway. The only real question is if they will clear.
I guess their still smarting over that Explorer crap. Soon, becuase of the Stupid people, We will have sign all kinds of waivers. Like, " I hereby declare that i will not tow a 5th wheel camper with my Ford focus!"
I run Cam-Locs on my fleet of SD's, mainly 450/550's. Some 350s around too. Cam-Locs allow you to tighten the chains without bungees. Although we use them too for the extended trips off the power line right of way.
Diamond chains are great if you can afford them. We stick to simple cross chain type. Cheap to replace after you run them for two or three days during a snow storm.
Ice chains are even better, just be ready for the cost!
I remember thinking as I was signing the waver, "what the hell do you care, you would not cover chain damage anyway". But it was easier to just keep my mouth shut and sign. But when I later discovered that chains would not even fit I was really pissed off. First 4x4 I ever owned that would not take real chains. Just another reason that I moved up to an SD.
I really hope they haven't screwed the pooch on the '08 SD.
I didn't think about it, but I think the rear suspension is different on the 08. Did the "outboard" the shocks, or just use longer leaf springs? If they outboarded the shocks there may not be much room.
Again, with the 20" wheels the tires are 34+" and therefore when the wheel is turned it comes closer to the suspension and possibly brake lines.
One other good thing to take with you is bolt cutters. I have a big set in my semi when i have to chain up and in case I break a cross link then I can just cut it off to keep it from tearing things up. Usually if you get them good and tight at the beginning and keep it around 20 mph maybe 25 mph max you should be fine
25 to 30 mph is fast with chains. i havent chained up for 40 years. they plow the roads today. i do recomend that you buy a bunch of heavy duty bunggie cords and tie the chains across the wheel. keep them tight. i have chains on my 55 hp 3wd ford farm tractor and i have them criss-crossed with bunggies , but i dont go very fast, hehe. if its bad enough to chain up my 350, i dont go. easy chains? do you still believe in the tooth fariry too?
If you want to avoid the bunggie cords, just let some air out of the tires and put the chains on. Then pump them up. Granted, you really can't do this along side the road, but it gives you the same effect as the bungie cords. Just something to keep in mind.
If you want to avoid the bunggie cords, just let some air out of the tires and put the chains on. Then pump them up. Granted, you really can't do this along side the road, but it gives you the same effect as the bungie cords. Just something to keep in mind.
You can if you have onboard are for air bags or Horns
BTW, I have been looking for the Z chain. I am glad the link was posted here. I am in need of a new set, Mine were from JI JOES and they broke in one day 100.00 crap