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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 08:29 AM
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Brake Question - Does this seem reasonable

Had my tires done yesterday. While I was there I asked them to look at the brakes. The front rotors would not turn at all by hand with the wheels removed. The back rotors wiggled enough (slop in the differential) to see that the rotors were free of the brakes. The service tech is saying that the front calipers will probably have to be replaced. Is this common for Fords? He wants to charge $50 each for the rear calipers (if needed) and $83 each for the front calipers. Also talked about replacing the rubber brake hoses in case they are clogged up. Any ideas

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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 10:43 AM
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mostly BS. when you remove teh caliper to replace the shoes, you need to pull the two slide pisn, wire brush and antisieze them. you push the pucks back into the caliper with a c-clamp and test to see that the pucks will slide out easliy when the pedal is pushed. --- antisieze the slides and its ready to reassemble. very seldom do you need calipers or hoses. has to be a reason.--- what do the discs look like?
 
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 12:24 PM
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If you didn't run the pads all the way down, and the rotors look good, and you weren't having any pulling or grabbing problems when you hit the brakes, I wouldn't worry about replacing the calipers or hoses. However, if it does pull when you hit the brakes, that's a sign of a bad caliper or hose. Most mechanics want to replace both the hose and the caliper to eliminate guess work. Additionally, they will want to do both sides.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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The front and rear rotors look pretty glazed and discolored like they were overheating. The fronts have 171K miles on them, they have been turned once about 30K miles ago at my last brake job. The backs had to be replaced 40K miles ago because they were grooved by a overworn pad. No pulling or vibration when I brake. However braking is not very good anymore. I've read about separate emergency brake pads but have not seen or replaced these. Does the '98 have this setup or is the e-brake work off the regular disk brake setup?

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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 08:40 PM
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If you decide to replace them, i had great luck with Hawk LTS pads and Brembo OEM replacement rotors on all four wheels.....
 
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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I wouldn't say it is BS (Not everyone is out to rip you off), but if caliper collapses it is fine. Clean and lube sliders as necessary. Unless you are having pulling problems like others have said. With that mileage new rotors aren't a bad idea and price for calipers is pretty decent and if they are original it can't hurt. If the rotor doesn't turn by hand it is possible caliper isn't completely retracting. If inner pad has more wear than outer pad then caliper not releasing completely. If outer pad has more wear sliders are usually sticking or frozen. Not ALWAYS the case, but this is the noticeable trend I've seen through the years.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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with 170k miles on the front and turned once, it might be time for discs. you need to look into the calipers a little deeper. normally a good cleaning will help a bunch. disc "glazing" is a common term. if they dont pulse or pull when applied, they probably are still o.k.--- fix the caliper slides, replace pads if needed.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 10:57 PM
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The emergency/parking brakes are shoe/drums inside of and incorporating the rear rotor.
 
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I don't know if you can get them anymore, but if you are thinking about new calipers, my old parts store clerk told me to order "loaded" calipers when buying them. They come with the pads already in them, and they used to only cost about $10 more. I may be wrong now, it has been near 8 years since I replaced a caliper.
 
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