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I have a detroit locker in the rear, and that helps, but when we have to get down and dirty, we use tire chains. No tire will make the difference that tire chains will do. We dont generally have to go anywere thats muddy enough to need to use them, and Ive never used them in mud, but the difference in snow is the difference between getting stuck, and having to walk the rest of the way to the tower site lugging equiptment, and driving right to the site. Log skidders use tire chains, so I would imagine they would perform well in the mud aswell. Yes they take time to install, but it doesnt matter what tire is under them, tire chains are tire chains.
I keep tire chains in the truck and have bailed myself out with them in mud and snow. Yesterday I was buried to the frame so that wasn't happening.
I am getting really good info from you guys. I am investigating lifting my front end about 2" and getting some good mud terrain tires. The nittos are looking good at the moment but I will have to keep the price a secret..(he-he)
I run the cooper ATR's on my F-250 and I love them in the snow. I haven't had them off road, but from what cooper says about them, they won't do as well as their ST's or their SST's. My Dad has a set of SST's on his 2 wheel drive and he loves them. With a diesel, the front is too heavy when you go off road into some serious mud. One of my best friends has an 1985 J-20 Jeep pickup and he has had to pull his older brother (04 F250 PSD) out of some places that you wouldn't thing a 2 wheel drive with good tires would get stuck, let alone a 4X4. In every case it was because the front end buried itself. When the front axle gets buried, you're pretty much done. Time for a winch or a tow.
I've got the Nitto's, 315's with a leveling kit. As long as I keep the wheel speed up, they do great. I usually have ~450lbs in the bed between a quad and toolbox. Personally though, my next tires will be ~39".
Tire chains make a huge difference, we run them on tractor-trailer's in the oilfield, and I've always been suprised where a rig will go.
zx250, Sounds like we run in the same circles. I also hunt in the mud and fish the beaches on OBX. Your truck looks good. Did you raise the back end too or just the 2.5" up front?
Yeah, I love me some OBX, wish I could get there more than 3 weeks a year. I only have the 2 1/2" front level kit. If I remember right, the 99's have a taller rear block than the later models. It's either 3 or 3 1/2". Enough room for 315 (35") to clear with minor rubbing on left front spring at full lock.
Originally Posted by billfishnut
.......I wish I had pictures of the mess I was in yesterday....... You guys would have loved it........ stopped to see where the water was going and felt the truck slide right down into the mud and off the side of the driveway.........drivers side tire was a foot and a half in the air....
Man, there are times that no matter what size shoes you have one, that heavy diesel engine is going to go down hill. The closest I have ever come to loosing it at the Banks was attempting to follow a coulple of 1/2 ton or smaller trucks down the beach and around a narrow section of beach, you know the ones where the remaining beach is on a pretty fair slope down to the water.
Anyway, half way through, the front decides it wants to go down hill, towards the water and the waves decided to start running up the hill futher. Well, I drove my a$$ off, keep it moving, and was sweated wet in less than 50 yards of some hard pulling and digging. I did have the forsight to go to 4w low before going in. I was in the wash and leaving tracks with my differentials and knowing that no one else around could get me out if I stopped. Moral of this is these things are very front heavy and we must keep that in mind.
Man, there are times that no matter what size shoes you have one, that heavy diesel engine is going to go down hill. The closest I have ever come to loosing it at the Banks was attempting to follow a coulple of 1/2 ton or smaller trucks down the beach and around a narrow section of beach, you know the ones where the remaining beach is on a pretty fair slope down to the water.
Anyway, half way through, the front decides it wants to go down hill, towards the water and the waves decided to start running up the hill futher. Well, I drove my a$$ off, keep it moving, and was sweated wet in less than 50 yards of some hard pulling and digging. I did have the forsight to go to 4w low before going in. I was in the wash and leaving tracks with my differentials and knowing that no one else around could get me out if I stopped. Moral of this is these things are very front heavy and we must keep that in mind.
I'm sweatin with anxiety just reading that...This past year when I got down to OBX I was so excited to get on the beach that I didn't bother looking at the tide charts. Well 1/2 mile down the beach, tide coming in, and only about 40 feet of beach left. To say I was freaking out is an understatement.
I love takin my 350 offroad but the thing is so damn heavy that I've accepted the fact that I'm better just wheeling my TJ. If the TJ gets swamped on the beach ive lost some cash if the 350 gets swamped I've LOST MY RIDE BACK TO NJ!!!
Like you said the moral of the story is to always remember how heavy these trucks are, their weight displacement front to back and you should be ok. Or don't think about it and only wheel with guys that own M35A2's.
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