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I just put a transgo shift kit in. Not to bad of a job. Would be much eazyier if it had a drain plug. Its got one now. As far as the kit, I can barly tell any differnce. I started with the smallest recomended holes. I guess I will start drilling them out. They say .010" at a time. What have you guys found?
I installed a transgo reprogramming kit in my AOD about 4 years ago when I rebuilt it. I could sure tell a difference. If I remember right it could put in two different springs depending on how hard I wanted it to shift and I put it in lesser of the two. It will put you in the seat when it shifts. I think there is some pictures of it in my gallery.
I guess the E40D is differnt. I'm just supposed to drill some holes out in a "calabration plate" I put all the new springs in. I have to admit they dont give you much for your money. it gives you a vidio, but than says dont watch it because the two page writen instructions are more up to date. So what you get is the above plate and about ten springs plus instructions. I would have done the "Ford tech valve body" if I had known about it before I ordered.
The trans go kit is designed for clean short sifts not hard sifts.
Clean short sifts cut down on wear and heat.
The part that makes the most difference in firmness is the PR (presser regulator) spring and the converter regulator spring. But as you now you need to pull the trans out to put them in.
I got a 95 Bronco with the E40D trans.
I got the TRANSGO kit, it was the one my transmission shop recommended.
I went with the medium shift, I forget what size drill.
Shifts hard and firm. Some people say to hard.
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Wright now I got a steel pan from Derale. Cooling tubes, drain plug, and three extra quarts!
I have built transmissions for over 12yrs. Now. The only time a E4OD will shift hard is it the computer is running the trans in limp mode or you may have a sticky regulator valve or a stuck presser regulator valve. It don’t take much to stick a valve a single grain of dirt can cause this. The sign of a sticky regulator valve is a hard shift for one gear, if they are all hard then you should scan the computer for codes. Once in a while the presser control solenoid will go bad and give hard or very soft shifts.
I have built transmissions for over 12yrs. Now. The only time a E4OD will shift hard is it the computer is running the trans in limp mode or you may have a sticky regulator valve or a stuck presser regulator valve. It don’t take much to stick a valve a single grain of dirt can cause this. The sign of a sticky regulator valve is a hard shift for one gear, if they are all hard then you should scan the computer for codes. Once in a while the presser control solenoid will go bad and give hard or very soft shifts.
now your talking stock builds correct? installing a shift kit will firm up the shift dramaticly over stock and perhaps that what he meant. A more firm shift not a jerking shift.
>“What would that also cause it to shift hard in revese!”<
A E4OD in limp mode would engage and shift hard in all gears.
Originally Posted by Kemicalburns
now your talking stock builds correct? installing a shift kit will firm up the shift dramaticly over stock and perhaps that what he meant. A more firm shift not a jerking shift.
There really isn’t a performance E4OD/4R100 because of the size and weight of them. If you over haul your own you can leave out the cushion plates and restack the clutch packs with aftermarket clutches and steels to take out some of the mush feel. If you try this you need to make sure that you don’t have too much clearance or too little as this will cause problems to.But if it truly shifts hard not clean then you need to find out why and fix it.
Even though the E4OD is designed from the C6 it is a completely different trans. One of the big differences is in the valve body, it has an accumulator valve body that helps control shift feel. If every thing is working right and at its best there will be no hard shift. The presser is also controlled by the computer by means of presser regulator solenoid and other sensors in the trans on the engine, gas pedal and abs brakes
As transmission builders and racers have found a hard shift mean damage to internal parts and shortens the life of the trans. The best shift you can have for the trans is a quick clean short shift.
When you have a long shift there are two or more clutch packs or bands partiality on at the same time. This causes one or more of them to slip damaging clutch and band surfaces. If you have a hard shift, then you have one or more on completely for a fraction of a second causing a bind. This will brake parts.
One thing you need to keep in mind is that is the higher the gear ratio is the softer it will feel. This means every time you put on a bigger tire it raises your ratio and will soften the feel. When you put lower gears in your differentials your shift will fell harder.
p.s.
there is one more thing you should think about if you got one of the check ***** in the wrong spot or you forgot one this will affect your shift to.
so are you saying the kit from transgo is pointles then?
If you read and understood what I said then you would know that a shift kit will help extend the life of your transmission.
If you have ever driven something before and after a shift kit was installed and paid attention to the feel of the shifts you would under stand this. The best way to feel it would be to drive a dodge truck or rear wheel drive dodge car. They have a real sloppy shift; this is the overlap you would feel. Then you would need to drive one with a shift kit. The difference would surprise you. At this point I think you would all say the price of a kit is worth it.
I think that mrknight made a miss type when he said "Hard shifts mean damage to internal parts and shorten trans life" He ment to say soft shifts. At least thats what I hope.
I think that mrknight made a miss type when he said "Hard shifts mean damage to internal parts and shorten trans life" He ment to say soft shifts. At least thats what I hope.
Sorry No miss type. Hard shifts do damage the trans. They put unnecessary stress on all of the transmissions parts. They can break cases, shafts and tear the splines right out of planetary gear sets and off of shafts not to mention that they also brake u-joints in drivelines. Most real hard shifts are a bind up in the trans some are because some one got a little to big with the drilling of holes.
This Is the last I will say in this is feed and you are all welcome to talk to anyone that has built transmissions for a living to get a second opinion. But just remember that all the magazines you might read for info are only giving you what some writer and editor that don’t work on cars have thrown together from a pile of interviews. You need to take what you know for sure and what you can learn from others that have done it, and from hands on to build you knowledge.
MrkNight, you seem to be saying contradicing statments. First you say hard shifts hurt the trans and than you say the shift kit is good for your trans. I guess what you mean to say is hard shifts, not firm shifts that you get from a shift kit, hurt your trans. Also, sloppy shifts are bad because of heat. This is what I've always heard. BTY I have rebuilt many a truck (every part), but you can always learn.
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