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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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Some Options for 351W

Hey Guys, Im needing to replace my stock intake manifold on my 1995 bronco with the 351. Now i cant seam to find any used lower plenums nore do i feel like spending 600 bucks for a new truck manifold. Well i found something on ebay that intersted me, Kinda got some light bulbs going in my head of wut i should do. Heres The intake manifold that i found. This will enable me to run the throttle body any way that i want. How will this intake do with a SD system? what do you guys think. Thanks
 
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 07:40 PM
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Here u go its hard to find where the link is. Its right HERE!!
 
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 08:30 AM
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i wouldnt bother with that. why do you need a new lower intake? if you want an upgrade get the typhoon lower intake then locate an edelbrock upper from either a car or truck setup. the car would be a single throttlebody and the truck upper would be using the normal truck TB
 
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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Ok i was just thinkin about it. Yea im going to have to do some lookin around. Thanks
 
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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Here u go its hard to find where the link is. Its right HERE!!
If your lower intake is broken or cracked it can be welded.. not a big deal for a skilled guy with the right tools. A carb style intake like you linked will produce nice peak HP but lousy low rpm TQ compare to the long runner EFI intake. Here's the Typhoon intake Kemical was talking about... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/86-95-Mustang-Cobra-5-8-EFI-351W-TYPHOON-Intake-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ36474QQihZ016QQitem Z260193299298QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
 
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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Yea ive been looking at those intakes, What would i do about the air? Maby just make a custom elbow and i have a brand new K&N Cone Filter. But yea i think im going to buy that intake, Prolly just to get that part out of the way. Paul i was looking at that Comp Cam, and i noticed the suggested parts where retro style lifters. Is that wut my truck has in it already? I found that pretty interesting. Will i have to get roller lifters also? Probably would be better anyways.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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Just run a Lightning style air filter as it was just a single tube.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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Paul i was looking at that Comp Cam, and i noticed the suggested parts where retro style lifters. Is that wut my truck has in it already? I found that pretty interesting. Will i have to get roller lifters also?
You truck is equipped with a roller cam, meaning it uses a cam with hardened and polished lobes and the lifters have roller tips. There is a spider assembly in the lifter valley to hold the lifters in the proper orientation, and the pushrods are unique to this motor as well because the roller lifters are taller. This is the better setup that nearly eliminates one of the biggest sources of rotational friction in a pushrod motor, so you definitely want to keep it. This system does not require the use of new lifters when swapping a cam, and there is no cam breakin. There is literally no downside besides the higher cost of the roller cams. The only other thing you should change when upgrading a cam.. any cam.. is to install matching valve springs.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 51dueller
Just run a Lightning style air filter as it was just a single tube.
What needs to be modified on the throttle/accelerator cable linkage to run a single TB blade style intake (i.e. TFS, edelbrock performer) vs. the dual blade TB setup on the trucks? Can you modify the stock cable to work with these intakes?

New cable? Part numbers?
New bracket?

Any info. on this intake swap and the accelerator cable would be very helpful.

Thanks
Mike
 
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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Wow paul that is freakin awesome to hear! I was going to put the cam install off a few months because i thought u needed new lifters but i noticed they where rollers. And very good question Mike, What do you do with the linkage? And also wut size throttle body should i use? Can i still gasket match or am i asking to much for the SD system? Thanks alot guys i should be getting my parts within next week. I got 2 Hemi's that i have to help tear down and beef up and my motor will be next!!! I cant wait!
 
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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Also im getting the typhoon and doesnt the throttle body come out the passengers side like the mustang? Il have to take another look.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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The pic in the link above shows it coming out at the passengers side. Can they be turned any way?
 
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First off I will say that the previous picture I posted isn't mine but I maybe able to help. All the car style intakes can be flipped to either side as long as the fuel rail matches. I have a Explorer intake (converted over to Mustang style) and a lightning EGR spacer (long story).

Ford used 4 different throttle linkage setups on the car style intakes:
1. 86-93 Mustang and 86-90 Cougar/T-bird
2. 86-91 Crown Victoria and 93-95 Lightning
3. 91-92 Cougar/T-bird and 94-95 Mustang
4. 96-01 Explorer

Choice 1,2 and 4 use the same square bolt pattern which is the aftermarket standard. Only choice 1 and 3 can work with a drivers side throttle body with choice 3 being the best.

The main hurdle is no one is reproducing the Lightning style EGR spacer which has the correct mounts for the throttle cables. While I don't have any part numbers but I'd bet the Lightning used the same cables as the Crown Vics. The factory Lightning EGR spacer has both throttle cable assembly mounts so it can be used on either side. The Crown Vic's used the same style EGR spacer but they can pretty much only be bored out to 60mm.

Here's some pictures of the factory lightning setup:
 
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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You truck is equipped with a roller cam, meaning it uses a cam with hardened and polished lobes and the lifters have roller tip
what year is his motor? i know that from the end of 93 and starting 94 ford used roller capable blocks, but didnt run a roller set up
 
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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what year is his motor? i know that from the end of 93 and starting 94 ford used roller capable blocks, but didnt run a roller set up
Most if not all F and E series trucks with a 5.8 got roller cams after '93(ie: '94 production year and up), the exception was the Lightning believe it or not. The 5.0 trucks got a small roller cam starting in '92, and the F4TE roller went in all 5.0's for trucks and Explorers from '94 on.
 
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