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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 08:49 AM
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3 speed OD

I never had one of the 3 speed OD's but knew someone with a 65 fairlane w/289 (I think it was a Hi Po if it was produced in them). Seems that that tranny was frequently breaking. Dont know what about it was the weak link.

NumberDummy--Can you verify that GM used the ford 3 speed behind its HiPo engines as the "standard" tranny. Pretty sure one of my friends w/67 GTO verified that his 3 speed was a ford. You know that hurt him! The first 64 GTO I ever rode in was a 3 speed as well (Gainesville, fl). Think it was because of fire at a GM plant somewhere.

Also recall a 3 speed OD in an old V8 Studebaker ~59 wagon. That was before I had to learn about the underneath side of cars----kinda giving away my age!!
 
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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Big Dummy,(no offense) That Galaxie 500xl (HT) Hard Top & (FB) Fast Back with FE Is the stuff that makes me wish I were born 20 years earlier. I am a 68 model same as my Early Bronco.
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by benshere
I never had one of the 3 speed OD's but knew someone with a 65 fairlane w/289 (I think it was a Hi Po if it was produced in them). Seems that that tranny was frequently breaking. Dont know what about it was the weak link.

NumberDummy--Can you verify that GM used the ford 3 speed behind its HiPo engines as the "standard" tranny. Pretty sure one of my friends w/67 GTO verified that his 3 speed was a ford. You know that hurt him! The first 64 GTO I ever rode in was a 3 speed as well (Gainesville, fl). Think it was because of fire at a GM plant somewhere.
The only FIRE occured in 1953-see below.
Also recall a 3 speed OD in an old V8 Studebaker ~59 wagon. That was before I had to learn about the underneath side of cars----kinda giving away my age!!
Careful when asking the big Dummy a question, you'll get more info than you bargained for!

O/D in passenger cars in the 1960's: 1960/67 Galaxie ~ 352 engine only / 1962/67 Fairlane 221/260/289...but O/D could not be ordered with the 289/271 HP HiPo engine = Ford 4 Speed Top Loader only.

Studebakers used B/W T-86 O/D's in passenger cars, except the Packard engined 1956 Golden Hawks, which used T-85's. 1955/56 Packards used the same transmission which is...the SAME transmission used in Galaxies, F100's 55/57 Birds, others.

The Studebaker O/D: relays, governors, solenoids, and in some cases, the kickdown switch are the same ones Ford used on various models. I typed all the comparable Studebaker/Packard/Ford part numbers a while ago.

While no O/D parts are available from Ford, NOS O/D parts are available from Studebaker parts vendors. (The big Dummy has all the Studebaker & Packard parts catalogs = because many moons ago, prior to working as a Ford partsman, the Dummy was a Studie partsman).

The Ford 3.03 all syncro 3 speed was actually made by Borg-Warner. A similar trans was used in some GM cars.

FIRE!

In 1953, the GM Hydra-Matic factory burned to the ground. So, some 1953 Cadillac's and Olds' use the Buick Dyna-Flow trans, Pontiacs used Chevy's Power-Glide. How do you tell what trans is in 1953 Cads and Olds?

The give-away = Dyna-Flow has a Parking gear (P in the shift quadrant). No Hydra-Matic had a Park gear till the Jet-Away Hydro first offered on 1956 Cadillacs, Olds 98's. Jet-Away was optional on Olds 88's and Pontiacs. After 1956, Jet-Away was standard equipment on these three cars. Jet-Away = POS!

All 1940/55 and some 1956 Hydra-Matics have a geared reverse, so when parking, just put the H/M's shift lever there, the car won't roll = guar-an-teed.

When the Hydro factory burned down, GM moved production to the former War Production Board built factory in Willow Run, MI that was leased to FoMoCo to build B-24 bombers in WWII. Willow Run was leased to Kaiser-Frazer in 1946/53, where K-F assembled all their cars. When GM took over the factory, Kaiser production moved to Toledo, Ohio, where ****** cars and Jeeps were assembled. Kaiser bought ****** in 1952.
 

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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 08:42 AM
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Thanks ND!

Absolutely not too much----

You have answered a lot of questions that have been on my mind for many years! Knew some about the Jet-aways, except for POS, they had better (more) gearing. The Studebaker was dads and a v8 wagon w/3speed OD. Remember now the "lift the foot" for OD and lots of slack in the DL. Dad also (at some point) had a "******" cracker box w/OD tranny, which I tore up regularly. Usually something else also got "Torn up"

56 GMC truck w/3 speed, no OD was a family truck (Dad ran a farm supply store in NW fl) Allis Chalmers, Massy-Fergeson (was selling Fergeson tractors when they merged w/Massy Harris. Hot tip for Powerglide owners was to find a 6 cyl GMC with a Hydramatic (chevy 6) and grab the bellhousing for your sblock chebby then swap in a hydramatic. V8 GMC was a Pontiac, 6 was a chebby(?).

Sorry for the long post, but what the ####, its christmas---- BTW Merry Christmas. If you are offended, TS
 
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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Did you know Charlie Erickson back in the day? Do you know the source of the early aftermarket tire carriers?

Thanks!
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 12:05 PM
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Is the output shaft lengh the same on both the 6 cyl and 8 cyl trannys ??
I allways asumed they were but need to know for sure

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Welcome Terry. Quite a show, no? 8-0
 
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