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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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Anti theft- Remote Starter issues...

Hello all. Hope someone can help.

I have a 98 Eddie Bauer Expedition 5.4L. I recently had a remote starter installed, and everything has been working, until it got cold.
Now when I go to sart it remotely, it fires up and then shuts off after about 2 seconds, then fires again and shuts off, then it tries to start again and just cranks and cranks, and no start.

I ran out to shut it down before it killed my battery, and noticed the anti theft light blinking. I waited about 15 minutes and it started manually, but the same thing happens when I tried to remote start it again right after. It has the PATS bypass that requires a key to be placed inside. Does getting the PATS bypass that doesn't need the key work better?

Could the cold affect my remote starter. Cuz that would suck seeing as the reason I got it was for those cold mornings.

I am going to take it to the guy who installed it this week sometime, but it is Sunday today, the shop is closed and I thought some of you may have the answer.

thanks.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 04:20 PM
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i would say you have a pats bypass problem i have the bypass module which works fine its is about the same thing as the universal other then it does not need a key inside it. the universal one sends the already programed key signal to the pats security system, while the bypass module sends a signal that you program as if it were a spare key. they both do the same job in my oppinion operation wise one is no better then the other.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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Thanks for the info. I think you are correct about the PATS bypass.
I'm hoping maybe a loose wire or bad connection or something. It is just wierd that it won't work when it is cold, but the second it warms up a few degrees or runs for a few minutes I retry the remote starter and it works again.

It's odd.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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Well, I went back to the installer today. He said the problem was the PATS bypass they used. The one they used is the one that uses a key inside. He says they don't normally use this kind because they are very unreliable, and prone to cold and moisture problems, but my Expedition was the 1% of Fords that don't use the bypass they had in stock. Cuz 99% do...

Most 98's have a PATS 2, and mine was produced early in the run with a PATS 1. It's good for me because I only need one key to program another, but bad for installers who don't realize I have a PATS 1.

Long story- short- they are installing the keyless bypass tomorrow.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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Does anyone know of a PATS bypass that works for a 98 Expedition. I have the PATS1 I believe because I only need one key to program another key. I need a brand or item # or something I can take to the business that installed my remote starter.

The problem is, the installer can't seem to find one that will work on my truck. He has the key hooked up under the dash to bypass PATS which should work, but it does not work on cold mornings, and I would like it installed properly with a keyless bypass.

Any help would be appreciated, cuz I feel like an idiot running out to My Expedition on cold mornings to start it after I just spent $400 on a remote starter.
 
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