Massive Yet Tiny Diesel Engine
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Originally Posted by pullinair
My wife's jetta averages 45 mpg city/hwy. You do not want to know what it gets just hwy. This 06 jetta is also considered a "green vehicle". IOW, its a diesel vehicle thats just as clean as any hybrid produced during that model year. But what I cannnot understand is, if a person purchases a hybrid car, they get a tax break, but if I purchas the equivalent (Co2) of a hybrid car, that gets better MPG than most hybrids, why do I not get a tax break. Off my soap box now. Tim
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wow, got a lot of responses since I was out babysitting contractors...
The engine has been installed and ran in a ford focus but the company is waiting on the patents to go through before they release all the details. You can hear him mention it in the video.
Emissions should not be a problem running B99. You would not need a dpm as the newer diesel engine's. They also have some cross section views of the combustion chamber with pictures of how the pistons are connected to the crank. It is basically like taking a regular piston and welding a connecting rod perpendicular to the side skirt.
I would volunteer to be the first test dummy for the conversion from the 7.3 to the MYT!! cummins what?
The engine has been installed and ran in a ford focus but the company is waiting on the patents to go through before they release all the details. You can hear him mention it in the video.
Emissions should not be a problem running B99. You would not need a dpm as the newer diesel engine's. They also have some cross section views of the combustion chamber with pictures of how the pistons are connected to the crank. It is basically like taking a regular piston and welding a connecting rod perpendicular to the side skirt.
I would volunteer to be the first test dummy for the conversion from the 7.3 to the MYT!! cummins what?
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Originally Posted by SVT03
Emissions should not be a problem running B99. You would not need a dpm as the newer diesel engine's.
This thing be the same way they will require a dpf on it and it will kill this engine totally and completely.
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Originally Posted by monsterbaby
Thats where you are wrong on this, emissions don't make any difference whatsoever. I have gotten into this many, many times, it's not actually about what comes out the tailpipe and never really has been. Proof of that was once again demonstrated when Toyota developed a gas engine that would pass easily 2012 emission standards with no egr valve or cat, and got 50+mpg, but when they tried to install a egr or cat fuel economy dropped in half and emissions actually ended up higher. So they tried to get it past epa and they said not without the mandated emissions equipment, even when that equipment makes it pollute more.
This thing be the same way they will require a dpf on it and it will kill this engine totally and completely.
This thing be the same way they will require a dpf on it and it will kill this engine totally and completely.
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it's one of the major reasons that I think epa needs to go away, they actually do more to harm the enviroment and the country then they do any good anymore. Yes at one time maybe they were needed but now it's gotten to the point of not only diminishing returns but rather putting so many restrictions on that innovations such as this engine can't ever be used to actually make a difference
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Originally Posted by pullinair
This is very interesting and only fuels my anger even more. You cant change stupid! Which explains why 08 PSD's are getting the same if not worse towing resluts (MPG) as the original PSD, and in some cases worse than. WTF? But, as long as people are willing to pay $50,000, they will keep making them, and upping the price.
I worked with a company a couple years ago on some high flow dpf's that were panel style like the filter in your house for the central air. It did not build backpressure as rapidly as the honeycomb type that is most commonly used and was more of a throw away design. Whenever backpressure built up just simply replace it. We were looking to use this at work on our cat 992g to keep particulates under the new federal regulations but we just switched to b80 instead... which is giving us 72-78% dpm reductions.
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Originally Posted by monsterbaby
it's one of the major reasons that I think epa needs to go away, they actually do more to harm the enviroment and the country then they do any good anymore. Yes at one time maybe they were needed but now it's gotten to the point of not only diminishing returns but rather putting so many restrictions on that innovations such as this engine can't ever be used to actually make a difference
My 20 year old Audi was still putting out 0% CO and HC when I sold it.
You really cannot fix stupid.
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Originally Posted by SVT03
You are correct... the dpf on the new superduty definately reduces mpg but it also does remove about 90% of the particulate matter. I do believe the superduty is the only truck out right now that has actually made the jump to installing one and when the others do they to will loose mpg also.
I worked with a company a couple years ago on some high flow dpf's that were panel style like the filter in your house for the central air. It did not build backpressure as rapidly as the honeycomb type that is most commonly used and was more of a throw away design. Whenever backpressure built up just simply replace it. We were looking to use this at work on our cat 992g to keep particulates under the new federal regulations but we just switched to b80 instead... which is giving us 72-78% dpm reductions.
I worked with a company a couple years ago on some high flow dpf's that were panel style like the filter in your house for the central air. It did not build backpressure as rapidly as the honeycomb type that is most commonly used and was more of a throw away design. Whenever backpressure built up just simply replace it. We were looking to use this at work on our cat 992g to keep particulates under the new federal regulations but we just switched to b80 instead... which is giving us 72-78% dpm reductions.
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Originally Posted by rebelchevy02
I think they actually brought it back in the new RX-8, which is suppose to be pretty quick.
As far as the MYT engine... I saw this motor years ago, and it really hasn't gotten any farther...
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The company I drive for now has 25 volvo's with the new emissions on them I haven't driven them yet (and don't really want to) but yeah they all have them. I actually saw a dodge with one of the new 6.7s with a dpf, and didn't even realize it was a diesel, even quieter then the 6.4s I have been around.
And from what little reading I have done on other sites yes dodge and GM are having the same drops in fuel economy with them that ford is. it's another one of those emissions deals that in the end if you actually do a total equation you will find out tha we are now adding more polution nad particulates globally then we were before the DPF was mandated (the increased fuel consumption requires increased, transport by super tankers etc, and more semi's on the road to transport, more drilling and more refining much of which is not as clean as even a non emissions 7.3l)
And from what little reading I have done on other sites yes dodge and GM are having the same drops in fuel economy with them that ford is. it's another one of those emissions deals that in the end if you actually do a total equation you will find out tha we are now adding more polution nad particulates globally then we were before the DPF was mandated (the increased fuel consumption requires increased, transport by super tankers etc, and more semi's on the road to transport, more drilling and more refining much of which is not as clean as even a non emissions 7.3l)
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This is what happens when all of the environmentalists run the country. It looks good on paper but doesn't make any sense. I have a relative with a trucking company and he ordered new trucks and they had the new emissoins systems and he sent them back because milage went from about 5.5 to 3.5-4 mpg. Makes sense to me. LOL...
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Probably isn't possible. Ask Ernesteugene, He'll tell you better than me exactly how much energy is in #2 diesel and how much of that energy would be horsepower.
Now, if you approach 100% thermal efficiency, you can get really amazing numbers, but since modern engines actually spew 85% of the energy out the exhaust pipe as heat I can't see where this guy has anything new to offer.
my thoughts: close to 100 to 1 compression (1470 psi), yeah lots of small cylinders, I still dunno......
Now, if you approach 100% thermal efficiency, you can get really amazing numbers, but since modern engines actually spew 85% of the energy out the exhaust pipe as heat I can't see where this guy has anything new to offer.
my thoughts: close to 100 to 1 compression (1470 psi), yeah lots of small cylinders, I still dunno......