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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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Pre-pump filter for in-tank pump.

Here's my idea for a filter before the pump since the in-tank pump mod removes the mixing chambers with the little screens.

The filter is an Aeromotive 12301 inline filter with a paper element. They sell versions with stainless elements but that's expensive. That long tube is for the fuel pickup. I intend to fabricate a bracket to hold all of them to each other and the top plate so vibration doesn't shake things loose.


Top of pump showing outlet to existing tube from the fuel tank's top plate.


Opposite end showing the outlet of the fuel filter feeding the inlet of the fuel pump, with fuel pickup passing over them.


All compnents are connected using AN -6 hardware.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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Interesting idea. What's the micron rating to the filter? Do you have an idea for the life expectancy of the paper before you have to drop the tank and change filters? Are you considering putting a screen over the pick up tube inlet to make sure you don't suck trash up into your filter and plug it up?
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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I'd say that would be a sweet looking setup if it is just outside the tank dropping over the front left corner toward the driver side frame-rail and leading to a lift pump. But not inside the tank.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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I've got one vehicle that temporarily has an intank filter ( chryslers better idea) I won't have another one on purpose
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by F350-6
What's the micron rating to the filter?
10 Micron. I hope that's not so fine that it plugs up very quickly.

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Do you have an idea for the life expectancy of the paper before you have to drop the tank and change filters?
None whatsoever. This factor had me flip-flopping between doing the filter and not doing it. I finally decided to do it since I would rather drop the tank to replace a relatively cheap filter element than replace an expensive pump.

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Are you considering putting a screen over the pick up tube inlet to make sure you don't suck trash up into your filter and plug it up?
I plan to attach the stock fuel pickup "mushroom" to the end of the tube.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Orezona
I'd say that would be a sweet looking setup if it is just outside the tank dropping over the front left corner toward the driver side frame-rail and leading to a lift pump. But not inside the tank.
That would make changing the filter element very easy but a really long way for the pump to suck fuel through though.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rbaker6336
I've got one vehicle that temporarily has an intank filter ( chryslers better idea) I won't have another one on purpose
Why not? Does the filter plug very quickly?
 
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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What pump is that? Who makes it? Part number? Is it setup for the -AN stuff or did you do that?
 
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Have you dropped your tank recently to see how dirty/clean it is? That might answer your concerns about the life of the filter. With a 10 micron filter inside the tank I would 1) become really religious about where I buy my fuel, and 2) start buying some extra 5 gallon diesel containers in case you have to drain it one day.

If your luck is anything like mine it will only plug up if you have over 3/4 tank of fuel.
 
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Just use a very coarse screen that stops the chunks! Otherwise you'll be getting very good about fuel tank removal to gain access.
The pump that I use has been in there for a year now and no ill effects, just using the Ford mushroom screen on the end of the pump for a pre-filter. Nothing else until the factory fuel filter housing on the engine. Anything that will pass through the screen also passes through the pump and is caught in the main fuel filter.
 
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Originally Posted by John7894
What pump is that? Who makes it? Part number? Is it setup for the -AN stuff or did you do that?
It is a Bosch 0 580 254 044. I had to buy AN adapters for the inlet and outlet ports.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by F350-6
Have you dropped your tank recently to see how dirty/clean it is? That might answer your concerns about the life of the filter. With a 10 micron filter inside the tank I would 1) become really religious about where I buy my fuel, and 2) start buying some extra 5 gallon diesel containers in case you have to drain it one day.

If your luck is anything like mine it will only plug up if you have over 3/4 tank of fuel.
Yes, I dropped it about a month ago to do the Harpoon mod and it looked pretty clean. No particles or anything. MN passed a law in 2005 that required all diesel to have at least 3% biodiesel in it so I suspect that has been slowly cleaning the fuel system out.

You're right on those two points. That filter is coming out of the tank if I find myself dropping the tank again sooner than I would like.
 
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Originally Posted by Kwikkordead
Just use a very coarse screen that stops the chunks! Otherwise you'll be getting very good about fuel tank removal to gain access.
The pump that I use has been in there for a year now and no ill effects, just using the Ford mushroom screen on the end of the pump for a pre-filter. Nothing else until the factory fuel filter housing on the engine. Anything that will pass through the screen also passes through the pump and is caught in the main fuel filter.
Yep, I plan to reuse the factory mushroom. I am honored by the presence of you the god of the in-tank fuel pump by the way.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 06:55 AM
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Yep, I plan to reuse the factory mushroom. I am honored by the presence of you the god of the in-tank fuel pump by the way.
Wow Dan!! You're a god now!
 
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 07:05 AM
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Wow Dan!! You're a god now!
you mean he wasnt before???
 
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