"I am sorely disappointed in the replies here.Either these replies are being made by very young people that have no life experience under their belt or people that do not have a clue, why they have a job. Especially one that allows them to play on a computer on company time. gezz..

If you are two weeks ahead of your work load, your manager is doing a **** poor job of utilizing the company employees time."

Yes, I did take note, that's why if you read again, I never stated you were making assumptions about "me" So then your comments noted in bold are educated guesses?

Ok, but am a missing something here?

"I am sorely disappointed in the replies here.Either these replies are being made by very young people that have no life experience under their belt or people that do not have a clue, why they have a job. Especially one that allows them to play on a computer on company time. gezz.."

"I did not claim on here that every employee is bad for using the company PC for goofing off....."

So not all company goof-offs are bad then?

So I take it you have vast experience in the many computer related fields to come up with this conclusion?

Wow, gravey train eh? But wait, you are above making assumptions, but you did use "you". I have no clue how you take the word "benefit" and associate "gravey train" with it.

You have NO CLUE what I, or many others here do in regards to full filling our " responsiblity of maintaining an image for the company" or our work situations so you can stop assuming. ( you did use "you" twice )

You tell me, seeing you seem to know so much about MY situation.

Why not have a civil debate about employees using their company computer for playtime, rather than resorting to inflamatory remarks like this ?

Seeing I don't work in America, you don't have a stake in anything I do at work.

This tells me you are making erroneous assumptions about me and anyone that has a CCW permit, which I do not have...

Why not have a civil debate about employees using their company computer for playtime, rather than resorting to inflamatory remarks like this ?

Oh, I see how it works, it's fine for you to make it personal, but once someone else does.....

And lastly......JMHO

 

Smiggs .. this one is to you . See ,I went and duun it ag'in I typed you again.

How about going back and reading post #45 and 50 again before taking my replies out of context? Of course I used you in #50, I was addressing the point the poster made about his fast production rate, not someone else's. What should I have typed, yaw ???....

I never made my replies a personal attack to those replies, because of the way the word you was made in the sentence. Your reply and the gun toting nut insinuation reply, were directed at me in a derogatory way. Once again, when a poster makes a reply in the form of aggression, they need to attack the opinion being stated, not the poster...

Why would anyone not working in america, argue a question addressing american workers anyway ? ...

You,and I am speaking to you only here, cannot rightfully justify to me that people goofing off at work while being non-productive on their company owned computers, is the right thing to do. ....

You may goof off on the company PC, as well as 80 billions of others may do it daily and get by with it, but those actions in themselves will never make it right. Employers do not hire and employ people to goof on company time. ...

The overall accumalative effect of those actions, is called non productive time. Go ahead and take this post out of context if you want, the message is clear and plainly just irritating as hell, to those that are guilty of it and, they rely to it as you have....

It is called having a principle to live by. Nothing posted on a forum will change my principle on this one, so it is futile exchanging bytes any longer with you about my stance on this principle. I am done here. Have a nice rest of T-Day! jmo

 

ohh it's so ridiculous that i'm even still reading this thread.....

Greg,

How about a police officer? if he sits in his car all day and doesn't write one ticket that day, should he be fired?

If we don't have a fire for a week, should a firefighter not get paid, because he didn't have to do any work?

If no machines break in a factory all day, and routine maitenence is all ready done, should the mechanic be fired because he sat on the computer for the last 2 hours of the day and did nothing?

Do I need to give you more examples?

How about food service? hairdressers? just about any small town business you can think of.

Not every job is work, work, work. I am given a work load for the week, if i can do that, keep my area clean, and help out others when needed, I can do what ever the h#ll i want after that.

Do i need to work 55 hours a week? NOPE, but do they pay me to? YES, I do my work and I'm damage control after that, something goes wrong, i need to be there to fix it. I work the hours my operators work, wheather my job takes 10 hours a week or 70.

Your quickness to label those of us who use the computer at work as lazy, or slackers, is plain riduculus, you don't know us, you've never done our jobs, you don't know the contributions we've made to our companies.

I've said many times that my company is a fool to pay me overtime to sit and wait, but do you know how much money they would lose if no one was there to correct a problem when it arises? The company saves much more money by letting me "goof off" on the computer.

And i'm sure many others jobs are the same way.

 

Ah yes, much like I took offence to your gravy train comments. Twice as a matter of fact.

Even a better question.

Why would anyone take a simple thread topic like this and turn it into their own personal agenda?

Depends on your definition of "goofing off"? Yes, there is a limit to where "abusing" your access to the internet at work could effect your productivity. But by the way you are carrying on here, everyone who uses the internet at work in the intent of using it for anything besides work, is labeled "unproductive".

Yes, and in due time, the "goofoffs" are dealt with.

Irritating as hell? Never saw that one coming.

 

You know, I am surprised I didn't think of posting this point earlier but I think it is an important point.

How many folks here, besides me, get telephone calls at home or on the company cellphone while off duty? I know I get many of them from contractors, consultants, suppliers, bosses and so on. It usually isn't emergency stuff but I almost never blow anyone off or not answer my phone. I can't charge overtime for it so I just suck up the time it takes out of my life.

I also spend approximately 30 minutes to an hour a day to make sure my night work is all set to go and coordinated with the night crews. I also don't get reimbursed for this, whether I work that night or not. It is just part of the job.

So I guess overall, I take back from the company about as much as they take from me.

 

with some jobs I would expect the wages reflect that there WILL BE idle time as part of the job.

Otherwise,no one would want the job where one's nose was to the Grindstone 60 minutes to every hour.

 

Good point, Nitra.......

I've worked plenty of times 15 or 30 minutes over where I just let it ride and didn't record it for OT.....I KNOW I've worked over much more time than I've spent checking my User-CP in FTE and posting......

What say you, Greg.....Do Nitra and I get a pass?

 

You all are fired. Turn in your keys and dont let the door hit you in the a-s. I am denying your unemployment benefits also....

I have a Charlie Daniels bus size load of Mexicans that will be here Monday, to replace ever one of you. They will out work all of "yall" for a third of what I have been paying you guys. I am tired of paying my hard earned money being paid to a bunch of goof offs.

 

Alright, Nitra.....See you at the soup kitchen....The 'boss' has spoken....

 

Good point...Ray...I spend many extra hours at the dealership...on my own time...have fielded angry phone calls at home from ****-ed off service customers...even on Christmas Day...been called at 3 in the morning beacuse the alarm went off...covered for the sales manager because he likes to come in 1/2 hour late and sometimes leave a few hours early. The company has no right or reason to complain because I post here while at work.

 

Now that is some funny stuff...send the bus my way...where do you want me to leave my key???

 

I can't figure out why a thread about posting at work has turned into a peeing contest and a debate.. It should not be a debate on this subject..Should be a fun topic..

 

It all comes down to tunnel vision.

 

You maybe just on to something there..

 

I see how that would make pennies, but i guess where i work, everyone starts out with that grindstone job and when you have been there awhile your duties become more babysitting others than doing work yourself. so the wages definatley haven't gotten lower.