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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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Low boost, high EGT.

1997 F-350, E4OD, 4:10s, 60,000+ miles, 6637 intake filter, 3" DP, gutted cat, Edge Evolution programmer set on tow mode. I can't get boost over 6-7 # and it's hard to keep the EGT under 1000* post turbo.They begin to climb over that on every little grade. The programmer shows a code of "PO236-Turbo boost sensor- A circuit- performance." I get no CEL and no truck codes. No exhaust smoke unless floored and that can only be done when empty because of rising EGTs.
It's a pain to drive because I can't get a run for hills or keep the pedal down to pick up speed. It seems like I can't use over a third pedal. I had to pull over on a long hill in second gear when temps hit 1200 and I got a 1/4 second squeal, I guess from the turbo, just as I got stopped. I pull a 26' toy hauler with a gross weight of about 8-9000# and get 10 mpg.
I don't know what the temps were before installing the Edge because I didn't have the gauges installed. I called Edge and the guy said my problem wasn't the fault of their programmer. Any ideas what's wrong? ......Thanks for any help..
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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i would uninstall the the edge first, then see how goes it. id check air filter too
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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Really would like to see a realtime scann under the conditions.
Addition to above.
A WAG is check mapp pressure line for leaks and preturbo exhaust leaks.

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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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What are the chances the stupid EPV is closing or partly?....
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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check the ebpv
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Action4478
What are the chances the stupid EPV is closing or partly?....
Up to 100%
Possible stuck. Like 1/2 opened

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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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Deffinitely check for any boost leaks and the line that goes to the map sensor for leaks. With EGTs that high post turbo is very bad. I think its like 200 degrees cooler than pre turbo.
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by powerstrokeddiesel
check the ebpv
That was my first thought but it moves and seems to be against the spring stop. In this hot weather it has no reason to close. How strong of spring tension does it have? Mine seems pretty strong. I have 13# back pressure at an idle that seems not right, that's why I gutted the cat but it was like new and not restricted. I thought maybe the sensor that reads BP was defective. Does the code shown in the Edge mean anything?....... Thanks again..
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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Deffinitely check for any boost leaks and the line that goes to the map sensor for leaks. With EGTs that high post turbo is very bad. I think its like 200 degrees cooler than pre turbo.
-------------Jeremy
I checked it with an infrared thermometer and your numbers are about right on..
Thanks.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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I have 13# back pressure at an idle that seems not right
You have to remember that even a carb motor is under pressure or boost.
At sea level your in the low 14.+ psi pressure. Most forget that we live in pressure.

Depends on sensors. Some read 0 at 14 psi.

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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 07:06 PM
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i'd say either a huge boost leak (check the uppipes for cracks or maybe some bolts missing) or ebpv stuck.... but i'd give it a 55% chance of huge boost leak, 40% chance of ebpv and 5% chance of something else
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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No probs...has me stumped tho why the low boost...the low boost is directly related to high EGT, because when your boost goes up normally the EGT should goes down. Something is restrictive. Its a long shot but does anyone possibly think that maybe the EBPV could have hung up and when the rod pulled back i it snapped inside and the valve is now wedged in there some way.
------------------Jeremy
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jboard
No probs...has me stumped tho why the low boost...the low boost is directly related to high EGT, because when your boost goes up normally the EGT should goes down. Something is restrictive. Its a long shot but does anyone possibly think that maybe the EBPV could have hung up and when the rod pulled back i it snapped inside and the valve is now wedged in there some way.
------------------Jeremy
Un hook it and wire it open,, you can't tell what it is doing , full throttle climing a grade,,,,Wire it open & see what happens...You can always clean the tube & replace the sensor if you wish....
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jboard
No probs...has me stumped tho why the low boost...the low boost is directly related to high EGT, because when your boost goes up normally the EGT should goes down. Something is restrictive. Its a long shot but does anyone possibly think that maybe the EBPV could have hung up and when the rod pulled back i it snapped inside and the valve is now wedged in there some way.
------------------Jeremy
a boost leak would cause low boost though, which in turn would cause high EGTs... i also think the Edge is part of the high EGT problem
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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Check for loose clamps, exhuast leaks pre turbo, air filter restriction, MAP sensor line/sensor, also try unpluggin the MAP electical connector, if it runs better you need a MAP sensor. If all that checks out check fuel filter and fuel pressure.
 
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