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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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White Smoke When Cold

The truck is letting out a lot more white smoke now when the engine is not completely warmed up. Usually I let it warm up for a few minutes after having it plugged in all night and drive easy on it until it is up till temp. My problem is that its not even that cold out. It is getting into the upper 40's F right now. IN the morning it lets out a lot of white smoke. When I drive away it pours out the exhaust and is somewhat embarassing. After it is completely warmed up it doesnt smoke. However, it will smoke for the first ten minutes or so of drving.

What could this be? EGR? Turbo bearing? Should I take it to the dealer immediately after I remove my Edge?

I also have MBRP Turbo back with no Cat, the truck has 31K miles on it.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 01:22 AM
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Could have some leaking injectors or injector seals. Dealer will have to troubleshoot to properly locate the problem.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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Thanks, I guess i will have to take the Edge off to get it serviced. At which point I will put it for sale on ebay
 
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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egr cooler leaking, egr valve sticking or head gaskets.

have it diagnosed and let us know. 5yr/100K
 
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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egr cooler leaking, egr valve sticking or head gaskets.

have it diagnosed and let us know. 5yr/100K
I will be taking it in monday to get service hopefully. It is strange though. If it were a head gasket it wouldn't it smoke all the time not just when cold and when under throttle? After the truck is warm it has full power, and doesnt emit white smoke. But it is def running real rough when cold and smoking. What is the EGR cooler?
 
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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I will be taking it in monday to get service hopefully. It is strange though. If it were a head gasket it wouldn't it smoke all the time not just when cold and when under throttle? After the truck is warm it has full power, and doesnt emit white smoke. But it is def running real rough when cold and smoking. What is the EGR cooler?
is uses coolant to cool exhaust (EGR) gases before the renter the engine through the intake manifold thus reducing the intake air temp.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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Turbo replacement made the smoke go away on my 04.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 04:35 PM
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Turbo replacement made the smoke go away on my 04.
may have been underboosting, we ussually clean the EGR as a combinder service for the customer. pay the co-pay once so they are not in again in 2 weeks w/ and EGR concern, this makes for a bad customer attitude for another $100 and day w/out his truck!!!
 
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 08:39 PM
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Actually it was white smoke at startup. The turbo was replaced when the truck would not accelerate at highway speed. Pop out to pass and nothing. It is an 04 but I am pretty sure they put a later model turbo back in. I haven't heard the turbo since the replacement. I have not been thrilled with the new turbo install. Exhaust odor in the cabin and exhaust system vibration at certain rpm including idle speed. I took it back for the fumes in the cabin. The vibration needs to be dealt with. Perhaps loosening the clamp at the turbo and giving the exhaust sytem a good shake may help to align the system? Or is there a possible issue with the later model turbo affecting the exhaust system alignment?
The Oasis report shows that the egr was replaced when the tech noted that it was down on power when he test drove it after dealing with the exhaust fume issue.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 08:05 AM
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Actually it was white smoke at startup. The turbo was replaced when the truck would not accelerate at highway speed. Pop out to pass and nothing. It is an 04 but I am pretty sure they put a later model turbo back in. I haven't heard the turbo since the replacement. I have not been thrilled with the new turbo install. Exhaust odor in the cabin and exhaust system vibration at certain rpm including idle speed. I took it back for the fumes in the cabin. The vibration needs to be dealt with. Perhaps loosening the clamp at the turbo and giving the exhaust sytem a good shake may help to align the system? Or is there a possible issue with the later model turbo affecting the exhaust system alignment?
The Oasis report shows that the egr was replaced when the tech noted that it was down on power when he test drove it after dealing with the exhaust fume issue.
the trurbo up pipe is leaking at the thermal expansion joints and just need to be replaced, may just need to nuetralize the exhaust to take care of the drone, there is a TSB for this concern and possibly and updated pedistal.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 18vtx00
is uses coolant to cool exhaust (EGR) gases before the renter the engine through the intake manifold thus reducing the intake air temp.
So that means I am burning coolant? I checked coolant levels and it seemed normal. I have noticed that even after warm the truck doesn't feel at full power. I am concerned.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 08:43 AM
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EGR valve was replaced on mine then came the cooler about a month later. I still can push the throttle and get no response for a couple seconds when in gear trying to take off. Turbo and heads were done 20k miles ago and injectors check out ok. The techs just keep emailing Ford back and forth. The EGR cooler did make a difference actually this last time but not the truck still does not have the power it should on take off. Truck is has been bone stock since the turbo and heads were replaced. I have had great luck with 3 6.0's up until this one but the dealer is doing all he can.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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So that means I am burning coolant? I checked coolant levels and it seemed normal. I have noticed that even after warm the truck doesn't feel at full power. I am concerned.
NO. the cooler does not burn coolant, it used the engines cooling system w/ the EGR cooler to cool the exhaust gases from the exhaust that are sucked into the intake manifold when the EGR pintle opens electronically. This is how engines reduce Nox or Noxide gases. Nox is not present until 1600* in the combustion chamber and is a deadly gas. It enters the body through breathing and never escapes, it keeps adding up inside you until an untolerable level and then kils you. Anyone want a job as a TECH??
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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Ok so far this is what I have. A bad injector in cylinder 2, that is being replaced. Dirty fuel filters that are only 6K miles old. And lastly I think he said something about a fuel regulator? It is what regulates the amount of fuel needed. Please correct me if I am wrong. Either way the Edge Tune is out, and will be on ebay. SCT here I come!
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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Ok so far this is what I have. A bad injector in cylinder 2, that is being replaced. Dirty fuel filters that are only 6K miles old. And lastly I think he said something about a fuel regulator? It is what regulates the amount of fuel needed. Please correct me if I am wrong. Either way the Edge Tune is out, and will be on ebay. SCT here I come!
Fortunately it did not leak bad enough to hydrolock the motor. Sounds like they are getting you fixed up.
 
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