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Snowed by tires . . .
Nothing like a little public humiliation, but I'm not figuring this out, so here I go.
I'm looking for serious snow tires for my new 2008 F250 Crew Cab. I ordered the truck with 20" rims and stock all-season tires, thinking I would simply buy some 18" rims, put snow tires on them, and change out every winter and spring.
I've read all the threads here and I'm still confused. Or maybe I'm not, but here's what I think I've learned.
1. It's risky to put 17" rims on this truck because of the position of the brake calipers. The safe thing to do is go for 18".
2. There are no 18" dedicated snow tires made for this truck.
3. Load E tires are required for the Super Duty.
Can this be true? If so, what do you guys recommend I do? I'm building a house in Colorado, at 9,300 feet, and winter is coming.
Thanks for humoring me. I've GOT to be missing something here.
Mike
2008 F250 Super Duty FX4, V-10, automatic
I'm looking for serious snow tires for my new 2008 F250 Crew Cab. I ordered the truck with 20" rims and stock all-season tires, thinking I would simply buy some 18" rims, put snow tires on them, and change out every winter and spring.
I've read all the threads here and I'm still confused. Or maybe I'm not, but here's what I think I've learned.
1. It's risky to put 17" rims on this truck because of the position of the brake calipers. The safe thing to do is go for 18".
2. There are no 18" dedicated snow tires made for this truck.
3. Load E tires are required for the Super Duty.
Can this be true? If so, what do you guys recommend I do? I'm building a house in Colorado, at 9,300 feet, and winter is coming.
Thanks for humoring me. I've GOT to be missing something here.
Mike
2008 F250 Super Duty FX4, V-10, automatic
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Snowed by tires . . .
This is what I'm talking about. I followed the link (to Tire Rack) in Ace's post about the BF Goodrich AT, but when you work your way through the Tire Rack site, looking up winter tires for a 2008 F250 FX4 Crew Cab without TPMS, the only tire that comes up is the Blizzak for a 17" rim. I'm willing to buy Blizzak's if someone can tell me what 17" rim to buy--that will fit with the 2008 brake calipers.
Meaning no disrespect here, I'm just getting frustrated after looking for a couple of weeks now.
Mike
Meaning no disrespect here, I'm just getting frustrated after looking for a couple of weeks now.
Mike
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The BFG's won't be listed under "winter tires", because that's not what they are. They should be listed as an "off-road, all terrain". They are a regular light truck all-terrain that just happens to perform very well on snow and ice.
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Even if they don't meet the official requirements, I wouldn't hesitate to use them. They've always done well by me. If you are looking for a snow tire like a blizzak, you could have some additional siping cut into the BFG.
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Also, you probably won't find a passenger type snow tire in a load e tire. Just the way it is. Don't have any technical info why. Also there is a blizzak offered in a 265/70/18 I believe that has a max load around 2300lbs/tire. Won't be able to carry much weight if any at all, but if all you are worried about is having a true snow tire, that is probably your only choice.
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As swann says, it's really an all-terrain tire. It just happens to meet the Rubber Manufacturers Association designation for severe snow traction. In my state they are considered a "traction device" and take the place of chains in some cases. There are certain sizes that don't meet the definition, so you have to check. Also, every state's laws are different, so in Oregon they are considered a traction device. In Colorado they may not be (although they may still be a good tire for the snow).
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oooooooh, yeah that reminds me.... I just bought the BFG AT's for my truck (5th set ever bought, each for a different vehicle, I believe in them). I chose to buy "D" range because there was an "E" available in my size, but it was "Not rated for severe snow". Don't know why, but I bought the D's. If you go with a lower weight rating you just have to pay close attention to make sure you don't overload your tires when hauling or towing, especially on long highway trips.
Bottom line, I didn't want to skimp on winter driveability! "M+S" rated tires also preclude chain laws in Wyoming.
Bottom line, I didn't want to skimp on winter driveability! "M+S" rated tires also preclude chain laws in Wyoming.
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Originally Posted by mkaiserme
Nothing like a little public humiliation, but I'm not figuring this out, so here I go.
I'm looking for serious snow tires for my new 2008 F250 Crew Cab. I ordered the truck with 20" rims and stock all-season tires, thinking I would simply buy some 18" rims, put snow tires on them, and change out every winter and spring.
I've read all the threads here and I'm still confused. Or maybe I'm not, but here's what I think I've learned.
1. It's risky to put 17" rims on this truck because of the position of the brake calipers. The safe thing to do is go for 18".
2. There are no 18" dedicated snow tires made for this truck.
3. Load E tires are required for the Super Duty.
Can this be true? If so, what do you guys recommend I do? I'm building a house in Colorado, at 9,300 feet, and winter is coming.
Thanks for humoring me. I've GOT to be missing something here.
Mike
2008 F250 Super Duty FX4, V-10, automatic
I'm looking for serious snow tires for my new 2008 F250 Crew Cab. I ordered the truck with 20" rims and stock all-season tires, thinking I would simply buy some 18" rims, put snow tires on them, and change out every winter and spring.
I've read all the threads here and I'm still confused. Or maybe I'm not, but here's what I think I've learned.
1. It's risky to put 17" rims on this truck because of the position of the brake calipers. The safe thing to do is go for 18".
2. There are no 18" dedicated snow tires made for this truck.
3. Load E tires are required for the Super Duty.
Can this be true? If so, what do you guys recommend I do? I'm building a house in Colorado, at 9,300 feet, and winter is coming.
Thanks for humoring me. I've GOT to be missing something here.
Mike
2008 F250 Super Duty FX4, V-10, automatic
Another option for a winter tire that is "Mountain Snowflake Certified for Severe Snow Condition" is the Goodyear Wrangler Slient Armor. The tire is available in 265/70R17E; 275/70R18E & 305/60R20E
http://www.goodyearwrangler.com/good...GradeSizes.jsp
http://www.goodyearwrangler.com/good...res/index6.jsp
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Snowed by tires . . .
Heck, maybe I've got what I need already. Here's a picture of the 20" tires that came with the truck. Should these perform well in the snow?
Mike (starting to feel I might have accidentally done good)
Mike (starting to feel I might have accidentally done good)
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Originally Posted by mkaiserme
Heck, maybe I've got what I need already. Here's a picture of the 20" tires that came with the truck. Should these perform well in the snow?
The Wrangler Silent Armor's that blackhat620 mentioned are a different tire.
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Originally Posted by PowerStrokeHD
I had the Goodyear AT/S as stock on my truck and I can tell you that I was less than impressed with them. They are in no way close to a severe weather rated snow tire.
The Wrangler Silent Armor's that blackhat620 mentioned are a different tire.
The Wrangler Silent Armor's that blackhat620 mentioned are a different tire.
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If you want a true winter tire (not an A/S or an A/T) look at the Bridgestone Blizzak W965. It comes in a 265/70QR17 Load Range E size. Throw these on a set of 17 inch XL rims, you have winter defeated.
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Originally Posted by redford
If you want a true winter tire (not an A/S or an A/T) look at the Bridgestone Blizzak W965. It comes in a 265/70QR17 Load Range E size. Throw these on a set of 17 inch XL rims, you have winter defeated.
Thanks.
Mike
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Mike, I can't help on the 17" rim issue but I can tell you that we have a place in Ohio City, Co (about 50 miles outside Gunnison). I have run BFG all-terrains on my last 3 trucks and they have done great in the snow. I still carry chains if I'm going into the high country (above Chicago Park) during hunting season, not so much to get up there but more for the ride back down. We are typlically on logging roads that get iced up so it can be a slippery proposition coming down with an elk in the back!