428 Galaxy 500
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428 Galaxy 500
My buddy is about to buy a 65 Galaxy 500 and it has a 428 PI or PC engine in it. The engine has been rebuilt back to stock and he is wanting to put a cam in it and headers and a better carb. I am looking for any suggestions on what cam and headers and carb. It has the factory alum. intake on it. He is also wanting to put a lower gear in the rearend he said it has a 2.70 in it now. So I told him either a 3.50 or a 3.70 would be a good gear for the street or the highway. also what kind of power did these engines make? Any suggestions would be great. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by 68FE390
My buddy is about to buy a 65 Galaxy 500 and it has a 428 PI or PC engine in it. The engine has been rebuilt back to stock and he is wanting to put a cam in it and headers and a better carb. I am looking for any suggestions on what cam and headers and carb. It has the factory alum. intake on it. He is also wanting to put a lower gear in the rearend he said it has a 2.70 in it now. So I told him either a 3.50 or a 3.70 would be a good gear for the street or the highway. also what kind of power did these engines make? Any suggestions would be great. Thanks!
The 66 428 P/C engine uses mechanical lifters, the 67/70 P/C's have hydraulic lifters. Which does this engine have?
1966/67 428 P/C's are the only years the aluminum intake manifold was used.
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Originally Posted by 68FE390
Sorry it is not the original engine. It has been swapped for a 428 PC engine but not sure what year. How can I tell what year engine it is?
See above post for added info.
How do you know it's a 428 engine?
In order to prove what engine it is, you'll need to measure the stroke.
Stroke: 428 = 3.98" / 390 = 3.78"
btw: Ask to see any and all invoices for the engine rebuild the seller claims he did. No invoices? Proceed with caution.
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You can check the date codes on the block and heads. That will tell you when they were cast. And if they are matching to each other. Casting numbers from the heads would be nice to know also. You'd have to look inside when it's taken apart to see if everything else is stock or been swapped out.
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Just a "Nasty Note", tell your friend the engine is no good and send it to me. My '75 needs "refreshing" and the 428 might do the trick.
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for the cam i would look into the comp magnum seires camshafts they have a good range depending on what you want to do. As for the gears i would lean towards the 3.50s cause big blocks espacially the FE dont like to be streched on the high end to much and it could lead to catistrofic failure
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Originally Posted by 68FE390
The guy he is buying it from is really old and sick and he said he built the 428 and put it in the car in the late 90's. And it has the factory Ford alum intake on it.
Swapped engine: I still wouldn't buy it till the stroke is measured.
No receipts for the parts purchased for the engine rebuild is a RED flag. What exactly was rebuilt?
The fact that the engine has an aluminum intake manifold on it proves nothing.
The aluminum intake manifold will also fit a 352, 390 or a 410.
Measuring the stroke IS THE ONLY WAY to prove the engine is really a 428.
On sale day, 352's magically turn into 390's, 390's turn into 428's.
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As mentioned above the aluminum intake manifold was used in 1966/67. 1966 428 P/C's used solid lifters, 1967/70 428 P/C's used hydraulic lifters.
Swapped engine: I still wouldn't buy it till the stroke is measured.
No receipts for the parts purchased for the engine rebuild is a RED flag. What exactly was rebuilt?
The fact that the engine has an aluminum intake manifold on it proves nothing.
The aluminum intake manifold will also fit a 352, 390 or a 410.
Measuring the stroke IS THE ONLY WAY to prove the engine is really a 428.
On sale day, 352's magically turn into 390's, 390's turn into 428's.
Swapped engine: I still wouldn't buy it till the stroke is measured.
No receipts for the parts purchased for the engine rebuild is a RED flag. What exactly was rebuilt?
The fact that the engine has an aluminum intake manifold on it proves nothing.
The aluminum intake manifold will also fit a 352, 390 or a 410.
Measuring the stroke IS THE ONLY WAY to prove the engine is really a 428.
On sale day, 352's magically turn into 390's, 390's turn into 428's.
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Some early 390's came with an aluminum 4v intake. There was also the optional 3x2 but was dealer installed.
I'd also pull a head and measure the cyl bore. Checking the stroke will verify the 428 crank but not the bore and the fact it's a 428 block. I've taken someones "word" on that "it's a 428" and was burned on 2 engines. It was long ago but never again. If I can't see and verify things for myself I walk away from the deal. I don't think the old man would lie either. But could be fuzzy on the exact details or possibly confuse it with something else he once had. Shoot I forget what yesterdays lunch was sometimes. Unless I had the day off where it would be liquid of course.
I'd also pull a head and measure the cyl bore. Checking the stroke will verify the 428 crank but not the bore and the fact it's a 428 block. I've taken someones "word" on that "it's a 428" and was burned on 2 engines. It was long ago but never again. If I can't see and verify things for myself I walk away from the deal. I don't think the old man would lie either. But could be fuzzy on the exact details or possibly confuse it with something else he once had. Shoot I forget what yesterdays lunch was sometimes. Unless I had the day off where it would be liquid of course.
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There's another factor to be considered here, the swapped engine.
While some of y'all could care less...many serious collectors would walk away from a car if it isn't as original. When things are changed, the resale value is affected. Modified vehicles only draw a small percentage of the buyers of collector cars. Then there's the quality of the workmanship to be considered of a modified vehicle. Many are hash jobs.
What are most ppl looking for today? The same thing they wanted yesterday.
Originality.
While some of y'all could care less...many serious collectors would walk away from a car if it isn't as original. When things are changed, the resale value is affected. Modified vehicles only draw a small percentage of the buyers of collector cars. Then there's the quality of the workmanship to be considered of a modified vehicle. Many are hash jobs.
What are most ppl looking for today? The same thing they wanted yesterday.
Originality.
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