Why would anyone object to taking a urine test unless they have something to hide? It is a requirement of my employment that I be randomly tested as I operate a government vehicle and am employed by the federal government. I have no objection as I do not do drugs and/or alcohol and have nothing to fear by taking the test. If people on welfare have nothing to hide, they should welcome the test. If they do have something to hide, then they should have their assistance stopped immediately. What is so difficult to understand about this??????

 

why would anyone object to the police searching your house unless you have something to hide?

what i do on my time is my business, if it effects my job then fire me, if it doesn't then don't worry about it.

alcohol causes plenty of problems also (how many deaths in a year?) yet i don't have to do a breathalizer when i get to work yet i have to take a whizz quizz that will what, show that i smoked a joint 3 weeks ago? if i didn't get fired or have my performance questioned after i smoked out an a weekend, why is it a concern 3 weeks later? obviously no one gave noticed that i smoked a joint during the weekend or they would have investigated me for my performance the following work week.

the drug testing started out as a good thing, to prevent people from being high while operating things that could harm people, now they use it even for hiring someone to sweep the floor. now they are talking testing kids in school, so what then, they are going to toss the A student for testing positive for dope but leave the failing student who tested negative? what would that accomplish.

and in the end, what is suppose to be the point of drug testing?

if it is for insurance reasons, poor diets and obesity should be included also as they cause lots of health problems and raises healthcare costs for everyone. maybe employers should all now monitor what we eat? or monitor our weight? or how about do a genetic test to see if we are more prone to certain disease? where does it end?

stupidity and complaciency causes more accidents on the job than anything else.

 

Except when your around heavy equipment operators. I would not want a hopped up loader or track-hoe working next to Me.!!! I play by the job site rules, so sould they. I'm all for random testing if it keeps me safe.!

 

I'm for drug testing wellfare recipients also. What if the tax money they are receiving ends up in the dealers hands? How's that fair to the taxpayer?

I also think that they should do atleast 20 to 30 hours of community service a week.

 

Why not 40?

 

I think it would be hard just to get them to do 20 let alone 40.

I'd imagine that they would just get doctor excusses to get out of it anyway.

All of a sudden we'd have 1,000's of people with chronic back problems or better yet severe nerve damage.

 

Awwwwwwwwwwww round it off to 50 heck lot of us has to work 80 a week

 

Well, the whole idea of making welfare recipients WORK for their welfare cheque just turns them into employees of the government. They work 40 hours a week, take pee tests, and get FIRED for missing work. No more cheque.

 

#1 A simple answer: Because it amounts to having to prove innocence, which is not the way the law is supposed to work.That argument makes the not so subtle implication that anyone who is opposed to testing is an alcoholic druggie, which I assure you is not the case.

#2 What is difficult for me personally to understand is how people can be quick to give away personal freedoms guaranteed in our countries founding documents .

Nobody wants alky/druggy driving an 18 wheeler or school bus or any of the other occupations where the safety of others is entrusted to them.But there must be a way to insure that safety without trampling on personal freedom.

 

Steve... you aren't giving up anything. the job is a
"Give" from the guy that wants you drug tested to make sure his insurance isn't paying for a drug addled dink. good bad or indifferent, you wouldn't want an employee that left you out there and making you pay Disability because you didn't check BAC or drug content. it's not about proving innocence. it's about proving your employability. as i said...the job isn't a right. it's an earned position.

 

I think it would be a great idea to drug test those who collect welfare. It is to help people with money issues, not to support someones drug use. I think the people with welfare should be more than happy to take a drug test, there getting free money to pay bills, buy food, ect. I think welfare is a great way to spend some of the taxes we pay, because we all have fell apon hard times, as long as the money is spent the right way. If the government asked someone for a sample of there urine and they refused, they should NOT recieve government assistance. It would not be an invasion of privacy, if your getting FREE money from the government, its the least you can do...

 

You're right: An employer does not owe me a job. If I won't test, it's see ya later. No personal freedom issue.

Welfare check recipients having to submit to urinalysis for no reason other than the fact that they are welfare recipients would in my opinion be a illegal search. ( And remember, I'd cut out 95% of the welfare benefits if I could.)

Carl - dink is a funny word - i hope to use it soon.

 

Speaking of pee tests....I'm peeing my pants laughing right now.....

I'm seeing Representative Rangerfan in committee proposing a bill to require welfare queens to take pee tests to ensure that their welfare check isn't going to the local crack dealers......

Do it, man!....I'll vote for you just to watch the fireworks!!!.....

 

I don't recall anything in the founding documents that gaurantee a paycheck. You want a welfare check? Submt to random drug testing, or get a job and earn your keep... and submit to random drug testing.

 

No, nothing about guaranteeing a paycheck. Nothing about welfare period.
But there is something about reasonable cause for a search.