IS it worth getting??
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Originally Posted by A. Michael Foxtrot
Judging by the OASIS, it sounds like the turbo was replaced along with the EGR valve. But I couldn't tell you if the coolant was from the EGR cooler, of if the turbo had an overboost condition and possibly lifted the heads.
it didnt say anyhting about the cooler being replaced so my quess is it needs to be or it lifed the heads. i dont think you would loose enough coolant when you R+R the turbo to soak the underside of the engine.
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hate to tell you but no dealership makes 120% or more on any vehicle. more like $500-2,000 at best on the highest model unless you add some warranty or accessories. Not $18-25,000 in profit.Your truck may retail as a left over for high 30's but not trade in. I will say they 15-16K is a smack in the face and way too low though, should have been more like low to mid 20's.
neither an EGR or VGT will make your engine leak coolant. Most likely has a bad EGR cooler and/or hose to it.
neither an EGR or VGT will make your engine leak coolant. Most likely has a bad EGR cooler and/or hose to it.
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the hose or egr should of been replace when turbo was correct??
pipewelder most of the dealers are f*in theves. they only want to give me 14000 for my car and it is bb for 19-20000 but i need a truck and willing to give in but they are nuts for what they want to give for your tuck. ya i would say mid to upper 20's depending on acc. and condition. market is tough for dealers right now the market is so flodded and even at auctions they don't sell or make as big of profits as they used to. i would also say they make 500 to 4000 max but who really knows.
pipewelder most of the dealers are f*in theves. they only want to give me 14000 for my car and it is bb for 19-20000 but i need a truck and willing to give in but they are nuts for what they want to give for your tuck. ya i would say mid to upper 20's depending on acc. and condition. market is tough for dealers right now the market is so flodded and even at auctions they don't sell or make as big of profits as they used to. i would also say they make 500 to 4000 max but who really knows.
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Originally Posted by zss42002
the hose or egr should of been replace when turbo was correct??
pipewelder most of the dealers are f*in theves. they only want to give me 14000 for my car and it is bb for 19-20000 but i need a truck and willing to give in but they are nuts for what they want to give for your tuck. ya i would say mid to upper 20's depending on acc. and condition. market is tough for dealers right now the market is so flodded and even at auctions they don't sell or make as big of profits as they used to. i would also say they make 500 to 4000 max but who really knows.
pipewelder most of the dealers are f*in theves. they only want to give me 14000 for my car and it is bb for 19-20000 but i need a truck and willing to give in but they are nuts for what they want to give for your tuck. ya i would say mid to upper 20's depending on acc. and condition. market is tough for dealers right now the market is so flodded and even at auctions they don't sell or make as big of profits as they used to. i would also say they make 500 to 4000 max but who really knows.
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when a oasis report is done and no reocurring problems are found but probelms were found and adressed at one point would the truck be considered to be a good one. for example i:
my buddy at the gym has a 2003 6.0 110k miles lariat 4dr. all options. truck manufactered in 06/05/2003 and bought couple day after original owner. he wants about 15000 for the truck says nothing wrong with it. did a oasis found that couple leaks were noted and fixed such as leak from rear main seal, and one from a hose and turbo egr. etc. had to be removed to fix (my guess is that it was a hose from antifreeze b/c of over boost) and fuel light w/ rain was on. but all problems adressed were fixed. would this be a deascent truck to buy for 15000. if it is would mods mess the truck up? exhaust and chip? not going to use the truck for pulling just daily driver but want a lil more out of it??
my buddy at the gym has a 2003 6.0 110k miles lariat 4dr. all options. truck manufactered in 06/05/2003 and bought couple day after original owner. he wants about 15000 for the truck says nothing wrong with it. did a oasis found that couple leaks were noted and fixed such as leak from rear main seal, and one from a hose and turbo egr. etc. had to be removed to fix (my guess is that it was a hose from antifreeze b/c of over boost) and fuel light w/ rain was on. but all problems adressed were fixed. would this be a deascent truck to buy for 15000. if it is would mods mess the truck up? exhaust and chip? not going to use the truck for pulling just daily driver but want a lil more out of it??
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hey lineman, that is a great deal for that truck if is really needs nothing and I mean nothing. but that one.. no the CAC tubes mean charge air cooler, they have nothing to do w/ the EGR.
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im an inside wireman but thanks for noticing. what i meant was this i found it in the oasis:Cust Comments: LEAKING FLUID
Tech Comments: CK AND FOUND THAT COOLANT WAS LEAKING IN VALLEY OF MOTOR. INSTALL DYE TO COOLANT SYSTEM TO FIND SOURCE IF LEAK. UPON FURTHER INSPECTION FOUND EGR COOLER TUBE LEAKING COOLANT. REMOVE COOLING FAN, SHROUD, ALTERNATOR, TURBO, INTAKE, AND EGR COOLER TUBE. REPLACE LEAKING ORANGE HOSE. RE INSTALL ALL PARTS REMOVED. FILL COOLING SYSTEM CHECK FOR LEAK. NONE FOUND AT THIS TIME
C S THE FUEL PUMP LIGHT WITH RAIN DROPS IS ON
Tech Comments: INSPECT FOR CONCERN RAN OASIS FOUND MESSAGE 17534 ORDERED NEW FUEL MANIFOLD R&R FUEL MODULE
Cust Comments: OWNER STATES SMALL AMOUNT OF OIL IS LEAKING IS FRONT .. CK AND ADVISE..
Tech Comments: DYE TESTED FOR OIL LEAKS, REPLACE REAM MAIN SEAL AND COVER
RECALL 06E17
Tech Comments: PERFROM RECALL 06E17 REPROGRAM PCM AND ROAD TES TED TO VERIFY CONCERN
this was the oasis report
Tech Comments: CK AND FOUND THAT COOLANT WAS LEAKING IN VALLEY OF MOTOR. INSTALL DYE TO COOLANT SYSTEM TO FIND SOURCE IF LEAK. UPON FURTHER INSPECTION FOUND EGR COOLER TUBE LEAKING COOLANT. REMOVE COOLING FAN, SHROUD, ALTERNATOR, TURBO, INTAKE, AND EGR COOLER TUBE. REPLACE LEAKING ORANGE HOSE. RE INSTALL ALL PARTS REMOVED. FILL COOLING SYSTEM CHECK FOR LEAK. NONE FOUND AT THIS TIME
C S THE FUEL PUMP LIGHT WITH RAIN DROPS IS ON
Tech Comments: INSPECT FOR CONCERN RAN OASIS FOUND MESSAGE 17534 ORDERED NEW FUEL MANIFOLD R&R FUEL MODULE
Cust Comments: OWNER STATES SMALL AMOUNT OF OIL IS LEAKING IS FRONT .. CK AND ADVISE..
Tech Comments: DYE TESTED FOR OIL LEAKS, REPLACE REAM MAIN SEAL AND COVER
RECALL 06E17
Tech Comments: PERFROM RECALL 06E17 REPROGRAM PCM AND ROAD TES TED TO VERIFY CONCERN
this was the oasis report
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From: Washington
Originally Posted by 18vtx00
hate to tell you but no dealership makes 120% or more on any vehicle. more like $500-2,000 at best on the highest model unless you add some warranty or accessories. Not $18-25,000 in profit.Your truck may retail as a left over for high 30's but not trade in. I will say they 15-16K is a smack in the face and way too low though, should have been more like low to mid 20's.
neither an EGR or VGT will make your engine leak coolant. Most likely has a bad EGR cooler and/or hose to it.
neither an EGR or VGT will make your engine leak coolant. Most likely has a bad EGR cooler and/or hose to it.
Also they may give me low-mid $20,000 for trade-in, then they put them on the lot for over $30,000. At least they do that here, every state is diffferent.
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Originally Posted by pipewelder71
They were asking for $38,000 for the truck, I thought it was little high. But when I was taking it for a test ride, my wife found a receipt from the auction for that truck in the glove box. It was dated for the same day that I was test driving it. You know what! The receipt was for $18,000 and change from the auction.
i hate used car salesmen.
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Hey, I don't mean to an a$$. But here, the diesel trucks are going for premium price. It's really too bad. I was really surprised the asking prices for these trucks, even though the blue book is showing a different number.
When I found my truck, I got lucky, seriously..................
When I found my truck, I got lucky, seriously..................
