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Is it one of the first?
NOTE: The Numerical Sequence of Assembly relates to all the cars that come off the line, not just the Torino GT fastbacks. So, by 9/17/67, 3,938 Fords was the total of all Ford cars (Mustangs, Falcons, LTD's, etc) made by the KC plant.
For example, going back a few years, Serial Number P100157 was the 157th 1955 Ford made, but the 5th T-Bird made. P100176 was the 6th T-Bird made.
NOTE: The Numerical Sequence of Assembly relates to all the cars that come off the line, not just the Torino GT fastbacks. So, by 9/17/67, 3,938 Fords was the total of all Ford cars (Mustangs, Falcons, LTD's, etc) made by the KC plant.
For example, going back a few years, Serial Number P100157 was the 157th 1955 Ford made, but the 5th T-Bird made. P100176 was the 6th T-Bird made.
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Yes, I'm positive on the Z code. The warranty plate said it clearly. So the Cobra was special ordered with that color? So both were built early in production. Does that make both very desirable?
I'm going back to the guy's house tomorrow to look at them again one more time and maybe I'll buy the pair.
What do you think?
I'm going back to the guy's house tomorrow to look at them again one more time and maybe I'll buy the pair.
What do you think?
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What kind of shape are they in? And what is he asking for each? If the cars are pretty nice and the price reasonable it could be a wise investment. The collector car market is kinda soft. But the high end cars still seem to be selling for good money unless desperate. So it is a good time to buy.
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I only gave them a quick look, because I was in a hurry. The GT has the best body and it has the trans and rear, but is missing the front suspension. The Cobra has a bit of rust in the rear quarters, but is all there except the engine.
He said to make him a offer. We're friends, so I don't want to lowball him. I also don't want to give too much money for the pair.
He said to make him a offer. We're friends, so I don't want to lowball him. I also don't want to give too much money for the pair.
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Go back and take a good look at the rust issues. If you can get both for a fair price see what you can do. If I had to choose only one the CJ car would get the nod from a resale and value point of view. Depending on how rusty the CJ car is the S code might make a nice parts donor. I'm not sure if Torino quarters are repoped. Might be worth a quick look into and see what sheetmetal and parts are available. You can easily build a 428 to replace the missing engine. You can also part or sell the S code to help finance things. As long as there are no hard feelings what you do with the cars after the deal is done it could be a nice project. It's a buyers market. In the long run the CJ is the more valueable of the two. But not being able to see both cars it's hard to value each. It may be the S code is the better of the pair to fix and restore. But I'll bet you the CJ will worth the most in years to come. Heck restore both if you have the means. And drive the snot out of them like they were meant to be.
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You could easily sell that R code Torino Cobra on ebay as is, and make $$$$.
The cars were scarce even when new, and are very desirable today.
If a customer wanted a color on their new car that was not offered with it, as long as the color was on another Ford model, Ford would paint it that color. It was also possible to have the car painted a non Ford color. When that occured the paint code on the Warranty Plate was either left blank, or was stamped: SS = Ford's code for a special color.
The cars were scarce even when new, and are very desirable today.
If a customer wanted a color on their new car that was not offered with it, as long as the color was on another Ford model, Ford would paint it that color. It was also possible to have the car painted a non Ford color. When that occured the paint code on the Warranty Plate was either left blank, or was stamped: SS = Ford's code for a special color.
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I couldn't raise him on the phone, so guess I'll have to wait a while. I talked to him a couple weeks ago at work about the cars. He said he had alot of parts for them and that the Cobra was sitting outside for 20 years and the GT inside the shed for the same period of time.
NumberDummy, how many CJ Cobras were built in 1969 and how many are still around today? Are fastbacks more rare than hardtops? What kind of wheels were optional and standard on these?
Yeah, I could sell and make money, but I'm not in that business. I want to restore and enjoy my cars. I will never sell any of them.
NumberDummy, how many CJ Cobras were built in 1969 and how many are still around today? Are fastbacks more rare than hardtops? What kind of wheels were optional and standard on these?
Yeah, I could sell and make money, but I'm not in that business. I want to restore and enjoy my cars. I will never sell any of them.
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