Notices
2007 - 2014 Expedition & Navigator 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014 Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator

Daytime running lamps

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 25, 2007 | 10:06 PM
  #1  
rich93cw's Avatar
rich93cw
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 125
Likes: 0
From: Near the Chesapeake Bay
Daytime running lamps

Anybody know what secret series of switch actuations will toggle the DRL on?
Thanks,
Rich
 
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2007 | 09:58 AM
  #2  
Baumbach's Avatar
Baumbach
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 84
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by rich93cw
Anybody know what secret series of switch actuations will toggle the DRL on?
Thanks,
Rich
My 08 Limited has the DRL option; the headlights automatically come on at about half power whenever I take it out of Park. Day time or night time. The DRL is a factory installed option and is not standard equipment.
 
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2007 | 07:00 PM
  #3  
clymans's Avatar
clymans
New User
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
DRLs

You mention it as a factory option. Is there actual hardware required or is it activated in the ECU or whatever Ford calls the "computer" in the car?

On my Audi A4, you could enable DRLs by using a VAG-Com to manipulate various settings in the ECU. There wasn't any hardware involved.
 
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2007 | 08:28 PM
  #4  
rich93cw's Avatar
rich93cw
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 125
Likes: 0
From: Near the Chesapeake Bay
Answer from Ford's Safety Office in Dearborn

I got the official answer from an acquaintance who works for Ford.

The body computer needs to be queried by the Ford Dealership scan tool and have the DRL function turn on. That operates the front fog lamps at full intensity on 2007s when the engine is running, the transmission lever is out of Park, the parking brake released, and the healamp switch in the off or auto position.
 
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2007 | 01:51 AM
  #5  
IQ9's Avatar
IQ9
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 351
Likes: 0
My 2008 does not use the fog lights for the DRLs. It uses the headlights and you can't shut them off...even when you would like too.
 
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2007 | 09:59 AM
  #6  
Baumbach's Avatar
Baumbach
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 84
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by IQ9
My 2008 does not use the fog lights for the DRLs. It uses the headlights and you can't shut them off...even when you would like too.
This is how my 08 works too.
 
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2007 | 11:59 AM
  #7  
IQ9's Avatar
IQ9
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 351
Likes: 0
I thought Ford would have done as GM once did..put the park brake on and the DRLs go out. I hate being at a a drive thru. Everyone get pissy as though I enjoy blinding them.
 
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2007 | 11:42 AM
  #8  
rich93cw's Avatar
rich93cw
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 125
Likes: 0
From: Near the Chesapeake Bay
Originally Posted by IQ9
My 2008 does not use the fog lights for the DRLs. It uses the headlights and you can't shut them off...even when you would like too.
Only the 2007 Expedition used the fog lamps for DRLs, and that was only standard in Canada where the federal law requires DRLs. The use of fog lamps as DRLs is prohibited by federal law in the US because each of the states regulate fog lamps performance and operation and none wanted fog lamps to be used as DRLs. Thus the federal law prohibits it.

That is why the 2008 Expeditions sold in the US, use the lower beam headlamps in a dimmed mode, as DRLs. The reason that you can' shut them off unless you are parked is because the Canadian law requires it that way, and US law doesn't requirie them to be capable of being shut off. It leaves that choice to the vehicle manufacturer. Thus, Ford and other have chosen to make only one version of the vehicle as regards to DRLs. Their choice is the Canadian wiring version.
 

Last edited by rich93cw; Nov 9, 2007 at 11:46 AM.
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Nov 9, 2007 | 12:23 PM
  #9  
IQ9's Avatar
IQ9
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 351
Likes: 0
And that is THE answer on this issue. Thanks, its cool to know all the ins and outs between the US and Canada and how the car makers have to wiggle between both.
 
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2007 | 12:56 PM
  #10  
clymans's Avatar
clymans
New User
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Dealer Enabled?

So, if the dealer is willing, can they be enabled by a tool thay have on an 08? If so, is it a tool that all dealers would have? How likely do you think it would be that they would do it?

I manually turn on my headlights all the time now. Having DRLs would be a nice additon. I didn't order my vehicle, so having it factory enabled wasn't an option.
 
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2007 | 01:14 PM
  #11  
rich93cw's Avatar
rich93cw
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 125
Likes: 0
From: Near the Chesapeake Bay
Originally Posted by clymans
So, if the dealer is willing, can they be enabled by a tool thay have on an 08? If so, is it a tool that all dealers would have? How likely do you think it would be that they would do it?

I manually turn on my headlights all the time now. Having DRLs would be a nice additon. I didn't order my vehicle, so having it factory enabled wasn't an option.
I have been told that the dealer can enable the DRL option with the Ford scan tool that they have. Give them a call and let us know what they say and how much they will charge.
 
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2007 | 01:32 PM
  #12  
IQ9's Avatar
IQ9
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 351
Likes: 0
I paid $400 for the DRLs..what do you bet me the dealers will charge that much or more.
 
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2007 | 03:30 PM
  #13  
ExpyBob's Avatar
ExpyBob
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 369
Likes: 0
From: Tannersville PA USA
Not true!!!

The 2007 uses the headlights not fogs! I ordered my truck with them from the factory.

The fogs stay off. Only when auto lamps or manual parking / headlamps are on will the fogs work.

Mine (2007 Limited EL) was built in sept 2006, ordered in aug.

So apparently there is no difference between 2007/2008.

Just wanted to set the record straight. They'll some poor guy that will come along and and think his is malfunctioning.

Bo
 
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2007 | 04:30 PM
  #14  
rich93cw's Avatar
rich93cw
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 125
Likes: 0
From: Near the Chesapeake Bay
Cool, that means I might be able to get them, and I'll see why Ford's safety office got it wrong!
 
Reply
Old Jan 5, 2008 | 08:17 PM
  #15  
2000F2504X4's Avatar
2000F2504X4
Junior User
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
From: Austin, Texas
Any updates? What is needed to activate Daytime Running Lights on a 2008?
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:20 PM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE