Need Input on Chip/Tuner
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From: hillsborough nj
Originally Posted by tjbeggs
I have no idea about temps on a stock truck. I've never had one. Let alone with gauges. That would be interesting to find out though!
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From: Silver Lake Dunes, MI
I posted a thread to try to get some info
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...ml#post5261100
I honestly don't know. I know that 1250 is the rule of thumb and what IH recommends from what I understand. But without a gauge you will NEVER now until you chunk a piston.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...ml#post5261100
I honestly don't know. I know that 1250 is the rule of thumb and what IH recommends from what I understand. But without a gauge you will NEVER now until you chunk a piston.
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From: hillsborough nj
Originally Posted by tjbeggs
I posted a thread to try to get some info
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...ml#post5261100
I honestly don't know. I know that 1250 is the rule of thumb and what IH recommends from what I understand. But without a gauge you will NEVER now until you chunk a piston.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...ml#post5261100
I honestly don't know. I know that 1250 is the rule of thumb and what IH recommends from what I understand. But without a gauge you will NEVER now until you chunk a piston.
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From: Silver Lake Dunes, MI
well i have some response now to the EGT's with stock trucks. Read the replies to the thread linked above and here are some quotes from other user's on another site.
"My old girl is stock except for a tymar style intake and no cat, and I live in British Columbia, where if you're not going up you're going down. I also pull a 10,000 lb fifth from time to time. No load on the flat around 70 or so, 600ish, hill same condition, same speed 800 or so. Put my trailer on, 600 pulling flat down the freeway at 60, 900 on any slight incline, 1150 max on a long hill flat out, 3000 rpm for five or more minutes. Interesting though, my pyro NEVER goes over 1200 even on the longest hills towing with my foot to the boards, gearshift rattling away while the motor turns big rpm. Hope that helps. "
"I did a Hypermax DP and guages at the same time, and nothing else. (stock airbox, cat, muffler, etc.). I could get it to hit 1200 pulling hard with a trailer fairly easily, but it never would climb above that with my foot in the floormat. A Tymar and 5" exhaust later, it'll go about 1150 under the same conditions (but I'm going 5-10 mph faster
). I've been told a good tow program will actually bring that down."
"I did things in the right order (intake, dp, exhaust, guages then chip) and have only had my chip for 3 weeks and the guages for a few months so have paid attention. With the TEE5 program, stock injectors, a DIY open element intake, shimmed FPR, 3" DP to 3.5 straight pipe and EPBV intact it normally ran about 600-700 degrees at 65 mph (pre-turbo.) Pushing hard up a hill, passing or excellerating (racing) would bring it quickly to 11,000 but not much over. I couldn't get it to go over 11,500. Boost would hit 19 before it would downshift.
I don't have numbers with the stock airbox, dp and w/ a muffler. "
So I think that pretty well answers the question about EGT's on stock trucks under load. They don't get into the danger zone when stock. Atleast the 6 or so replies we have don't. Both unloaded and towing they stay safe for temps.
An addition of fuel (power) will result in higher temps.
"My old girl is stock except for a tymar style intake and no cat, and I live in British Columbia, where if you're not going up you're going down. I also pull a 10,000 lb fifth from time to time. No load on the flat around 70 or so, 600ish, hill same condition, same speed 800 or so. Put my trailer on, 600 pulling flat down the freeway at 60, 900 on any slight incline, 1150 max on a long hill flat out, 3000 rpm for five or more minutes. Interesting though, my pyro NEVER goes over 1200 even on the longest hills towing with my foot to the boards, gearshift rattling away while the motor turns big rpm. Hope that helps. "
"I did a Hypermax DP and guages at the same time, and nothing else. (stock airbox, cat, muffler, etc.). I could get it to hit 1200 pulling hard with a trailer fairly easily, but it never would climb above that with my foot in the floormat. A Tymar and 5" exhaust later, it'll go about 1150 under the same conditions (but I'm going 5-10 mph faster
). I've been told a good tow program will actually bring that down.""I did things in the right order (intake, dp, exhaust, guages then chip) and have only had my chip for 3 weeks and the guages for a few months so have paid attention. With the TEE5 program, stock injectors, a DIY open element intake, shimmed FPR, 3" DP to 3.5 straight pipe and EPBV intact it normally ran about 600-700 degrees at 65 mph (pre-turbo.) Pushing hard up a hill, passing or excellerating (racing) would bring it quickly to 11,000 but not much over. I couldn't get it to go over 11,500. Boost would hit 19 before it would downshift.
I don't have numbers with the stock airbox, dp and w/ a muffler. "
So I think that pretty well answers the question about EGT's on stock trucks under load. They don't get into the danger zone when stock. Atleast the 6 or so replies we have don't. Both unloaded and towing they stay safe for temps.
An addition of fuel (power) will result in higher temps.
Tuned
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From: Rincon, GA
Dissatisfied With Edge Also
I am running a 97 reg cab, 4x4, manual, stock other than 3" downpipe and that came with an Edge on it. I only run it on the lowest setting and the truck runs very rough during acceleration i.e. between 1200 and 2200 rpms. I attribute this to the Edge, unless someone tells me there is another cause I am unaware of. I am very new to all of this and plan to switch it back to the stock setting to test my theory. My next step is going to be a DP chip and gauges.
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From: somerset KY
before i put my truck on the big 9-0 i called superchips, told them all i hadand they said go for it, even without egt gauge, and i talked to a ford certified mechanic locally, and 4 other local diesel mechanics all before. but, one of those blew up his new 6.7 cummins since then lol.
