Duplicating keys
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Originally Posted by alchymist
But you keep missing the point, KEYS DON"T GET REPROGRAMMED. 
Originally Posted by alchymist
And when the dealer reprograms with 1 old and 1 new key...
As I have already posted TWICE NOW...
Originally Posted by Stewart_H
...a dealership won't REPROGRAM a second key for you. They will however PROGRAM a second key for you.
On top of all that, a PATS key would have to have a program already on it in order to be reprogrammed. If it's blank, then the key is being programmed, not reprogrammed.
On top of all that, a PATS key would have to have a program already on it in order to be reprogrammed. If it's blank, then the key is being programmed, not reprogrammed.
That's how my buddy got his second key, when he only had one.
Then I showed him the various ebay sellers who deal with PATS keys and he picked up two more keys, and after having them cut, programmed them himself.
Stewart
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Originally Posted by Stewart_H
Bro, you're so confused you're contradicting yourself!
As I have already posted TWICE NOW...
Look, here's the deal. You can walk into a dealership with one working PATS key (we'll call that one working key Adam) and have the dealership cut and program a second PATS key for you (we'll call the second key Eve) and after paying the fee's incurred, you drive away with your original key, Adam, and your new key Eve, and they both work. They both start the vehicle.
That's how my buddy got his second key, when he only had one.
Then I showed him the various ebay sellers who deal with PATS keys and he picked up two more keys, and after having them cut, programmed them himself.
Stewart
As I have already posted TWICE NOW...
Look, here's the deal. You can walk into a dealership with one working PATS key (we'll call that one working key Adam) and have the dealership cut and program a second PATS key for you (we'll call the second key Eve) and after paying the fee's incurred, you drive away with your original key, Adam, and your new key Eve, and they both work. They both start the vehicle.
That's how my buddy got his second key, when he only had one.
Then I showed him the various ebay sellers who deal with PATS keys and he picked up two more keys, and after having them cut, programmed them himself.
Stewart
Originally Posted by alchymist
But you keep missing the point, KEYS DON"T GET REPROGRAMMED.
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And when the dealer reprograms with 1 old and 1 new key...
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If you read this in context, It does not say the dealer reprograms the KEY, it says he reprograms WITH 1 old and 1 new key. Bottom line, the point I was trying to make is the original missing key, the one the original owner kept or lost, will no longer start the vehicle, but it will unlock the doors.
and I see no need to continue debating something you seem intent on beating to death.........with all due respect........
Last edited by alchymist; Oct 24, 2007 at 09:03 PM.
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Originally Posted by alchymist
Concentrate - perhaps it will become clear to you - semantics doesn't seem to be your strong suit - and I see no need to continue debating something you seem intent on beating to death.........with all due respect........
When I correct your bad information, and also correct the manner in which you attempt to communicate information, so others don't get confused, it is not beating something to death. It's called providing correct, useful information.
Then you try and candy coat your attack with "all due respect'? LMAO.
No problem. If you're offended from my previous posts, that was never my intent. To me, it truly seems like you are confused on the procedure the dealership uses to program a second key for a customer, so I tried to help you understand how it works. But I guess I failed, judging by your last post.
It's not the first time I've failed, and it won't be the last.
Ah well, I'm sorry I ruffled your feathers bro.
Stewart
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Originally Posted by Stewart_H
LOL! Okay, because reading comprehension owns you, you decide to subtly attack me?
When I correct your bad information, and also correct the manner in which you attempt to communicate information, so others don't get confused, it is not beating something to death. It's called providing correct, useful information.
Then you try and candy coat your attack with "all due respect'? LMAO.
No problem. If you're offended from my previous posts, that was never my intent. To me, it truly seems like you are confused on the procedure the dealership uses to program a second key for a customer, so I tried to help you understand how it works. But I guess I failed, judging by your last post.
It's not the first time I've failed, and it won't be the last.
Ah well, I'm sorry I ruffled your feathers bro.
Stewart
When I correct your bad information, and also correct the manner in which you attempt to communicate information, so others don't get confused, it is not beating something to death. It's called providing correct, useful information.
Then you try and candy coat your attack with "all due respect'? LMAO.
No problem. If you're offended from my previous posts, that was never my intent. To me, it truly seems like you are confused on the procedure the dealership uses to program a second key for a customer, so I tried to help you understand how it works. But I guess I failed, judging by your last post.
It's not the first time I've failed, and it won't be the last.
Ah well, I'm sorry I ruffled your feathers bro.
Stewart
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Originally Posted by Btravelen
What is the concern with what the 'missing' key will do? That missing key is irrelevant and has caused a lot of unecessary keystrokes. 
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My Excursion came with only one key and FOB. I bought a new one of each off Ebay and though the FOB was barely used, the key was brand new in the bag from FORD.
I programmed the FOB myself -- too easy.
The key I had cut at a local hardware store for $1.
Then I had the local dealership program (the PATS Module) for $98.
I thought that was bit if a rip, but what are you going to do? I think that included one hour of labor.
I will buy another key, just for a spare and program it myself.
I programmed the FOB myself -- too easy.
The key I had cut at a local hardware store for $1.
Then I had the local dealership program (the PATS Module) for $98.
I thought that was bit if a rip, but what are you going to do? I think that included one hour of labor.
I will buy another key, just for a spare and program it myself.
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