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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 05:42 AM
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I have a 2004 F350 C.C., 6.0 turbo diesel with 45K miles. Some of the add ons are 5 inch exhaust, K&N cold air intake and an edge attitude with juice, a pretty modest setup I think. The other day I was going down the road an a guy in a 05 or 06 Chev duramax passed next to me and it was obvious he had the edge also, I saw the controller, he got in front of me and put his foot into it and his truck dumped all this black smoke. My truck has never dumped smoke like that, I've never seen black smoke come out of my exhaust, is there a reason Chev dumps smoke like that and (my) Ford doesn't? If you know, I'm curious.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 06:25 AM
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Don't know why your edge doesn't but i can tell you that running the SCT will put out some black smoke when i put the go pedal to the floor.

What setting are you running on the edge? if it's a lower setting it probably isn't dumping that much extra fuel into the motor
 
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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if i put my edge on 4 it will dump black even on 3, but your right i see dodges just dump tons of it, lol i want a file to be written for me that just dumps black smoke
 
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 12:10 PM
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All that black smoke is fuel!!!?? You're worried about saving $3.00 + a gallon of diesel?
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 05:36 AM
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I just want to know what is typical...If I was worried about fuel prices I'd be driving a 4 popper car.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 06:03 AM
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Here is another thing about smoke, it's wasted horsepower. Would you rather be dumping smoke all over the place or would you rather be passing them while they are dumping smoke? I equate dumping smoke with all bark and no bite. People know you have something on there, but it still takes you awhile to get anywhere. But to answer your question, your edge sould be dumping the fuel at higher settings, if your at higher settings then you must not be on the throttle enough in order for it to dump.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 08:59 AM
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Dumpin smoke doesn't mean wasted horsepower. It could mean the turbo hasn't spooled up yet. When I mash the motor in my truck, I dump black smoke, but soon as the turbo catches up it's nearly clear.

To the OP, get rid of the edge and pick up an SCT before you regret it!
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by riggz
Dumpin smoke doesn't mean wasted horsepower. It could mean the turbo hasn't spooled up yet. When I mash the motor in my truck, I dump black smoke, but soon as the turbo catches up it's nearly clear.

To the OP, get rid of the edge and pick up an SCT before you regret it!
That's right, meaning you have more fuel and not enough air, which means you don't have as much horsepower as you could have until your air input matches your fuel input. So when you dump you have wasted fuel, and that's half the equation for horsepower and thus you have wasted horsepower.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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well i guess for me i would rather have smoke bc my truck is heavy and its not a race car, i like it bc its big, i wish i could just dumb smoke on level one since i hardly ever use my edge past that setting lol
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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sounds to me like your edge may be set to economy, you have more than one setting right?? it should smoke when you stomp on it im a race tune, BTW you should be worried about smoking the chevy not the atmosphere...and get an SCT to do it with.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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If you keep your Edge for long, your local Transmission shop or dealer will thank you . If you don't blow your head gaskets first.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 11:47 PM
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That's right, meaning you have more fuel and not enough air, which means you don't have as much horsepower as you could have until your air input matches your fuel input. So when you dump you have wasted fuel, and that's half the equation for horsepower and thus you have wasted horsepower.
I fail to see how running more fuel is wasted horsepower. Using less fuel will not gain you any more horsepower. By your rationale cutting the fuel input would yield more horsepower, which is not true.

I guess all the competition diesel guys don't know that they are wasting all that horsepower when running the 1/4 mile?
 
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 12:31 AM
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Smoke = Unburnt fuel. That is what they are saying. If you are properly tuned then you will match fuel input with air input, thus no smoke.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 12:32 AM
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To clarify yes more fuel equals more hp, if enough air is supplied as well.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 12:37 AM
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But if enough air has not yet been supplied, that wasted fuel is not wasted horsepower. I don't even think there is such a thing.
 
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