I am thinking about purchasing a 427 hemi from my uncles friend who is a mechanic. How weasy would the 427 fit into my 1984 F150 that right now has a 351W in it? Thanks

 

427 Hemi as in the SOHC 427 with the 8 foot timing chain? The one in which they've only produced maybe a handful in 65? And you want to put in a 1984 F-150? Yeah, whatever.

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Mike, you will need a trans with the FE bell pattern, or just a bell if you have a manual trans, you will also need the frame perches and engine mounts for a 65 to 76 truck that came with an FE. Yes, the timing chain is really long, six feet, and setting up the cams is kind of tricky because the long chain can stretch. You will also need a very fat checkbook, I can't imagine finding one for less than 50K $, but if you have the $$, John Veermesch has the parts to build them. DF

 

>You will also need
>a very fat checkbook, I
>can't imagine finding one for
>less than 50K $, but
>if you have the $$,


50K? yeah right, you can buy all the parts new from dove to build them for around 25-30K the going used rate for a 427SOHC that I've seen advertised lately is around $18,000 in a fresher rebuild or torn down ex-race (still has non factory hi-po parts)engine.

 

Must not be a hemi. My uncles buddy tried to sell him the engine for his 54 merc but my uncle wants a 302, I said I was interested rather then putting new ported and polished heads on my 351w. I haven't seen the engine but I am just wondering what kinds of 427's there are. If I get the chance I am going to go see it this weekend (3 hour drive). I know there is a hemi and I have heard there is a cobra jet, but is there just a regular 427. He said it was built to about 450hp, What did they come with stock?

Thanks guys.

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Canada Mike, I knew your name because I have super powers. 427s come in low, medium and high riser styles. Tunnel ports and SOHCs were avaliable over the counter. All are more exspensive than other ford engines because there were less of them made and guys have been after them for a while, but if you find one and can afford it they make good power and are lots of fun. The most desirable part is the block, because it has the biggest bore of any FE, 4.23. DF

 

Thanks DF. My uncle is going to get all the information on it today and is going to find out a price. If it is right then I am going to go look at it on Saturday or Sunday. Do you know how hard the swap will be. Are there any kits available? How close is the bolt pattern to a 460 or 429?

Thanks

 

Mike, the 427s are from the FE family, the 429, 370 and 460 are from the 385 Lima family, they don't share any parts or patterns. If you can get a 427 however, it should go into a truck without too much hassle. You will need an auto matic trans fron behind a 360 or 390, if you run a manual (as you should) you just need the right bell housing. You will be putting it in a newer truck than any FE ever came in, but trucks are simple and there is plenty of room. Most of the 427s that were produced have been grabbed by mustang and galaxie and cobra owners. The 427 is known for better high rpm power than other FEs but could be stroked to make a very effective 450+ cubic inch truck engine. The 427s came in top or side oiled styles, either one is worth buying if you find one. If you find one with some exotic heads make sure you get the matching intake manifold. Normal 390 headers will fit unless you stumble across a SOHC, which would require custom pipes. Let us know what you find, If you don't want it, one of us might. DF

 

"Hemi" is a Dodge term. They had a 426 Hemi that was a pretty hot motor. All of the big three made engines displacing seven liters and used them in racing programs during the '60s. I don't know much about the shivy 427, but the Ford 427 is not for people who do not like to tinker with their cars. Also not for "wimps." Factory 427-powered cars were usually taxi-cab looking strippers with no power steering and no automatic transmission (you could put an auto behind it on your own). Also, the 427 had solid lifters and cross-bolted mains so it could rev higher. A 427 is basically a race engine in a street car. Getting 450 horsepower out of one is about like getting your value meal super-sized at McDonald's.

So if your truck is your daily driver, I'd forget it. I am not even sure factory 427 heads have provisions for mounting power steering brackets, and if you buy this thing and put 390 heads on it, I might have to round up a posse and come after you....

Personally, I can't believe your uncle doesn't want it. A 427 would be just about perfect for that car. Much better than some lame little 302. The sweet sound it makes through a pair of straight pipes would be well worth the extra money.

 

My dad is going to look at the engine tomorrow and see if it is any good. My truck has striaght pipes and it sounds awesome with the 351W so i was very excited about the 427 but we will see what happens and I will let you guys know.

Thanks,
Canadian Fordman

 

i've never heard of a ford 427 referred to as a hemi, maybe he's talking about a 429 boss semi hemi????

 

the 427 SOHC was more of a hemi than the 429 BOSS.