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Oct 4, 2007 | 04:26 PM

jmfrost

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Engine issues

Quite a few of you have read my posts on the two issues I had with my Expedition, and I thank those that responded. After having it towed to the dealership the diganosis came back today. The official response from the dealership is that the fuel injector was stuck open, dumping fuel into the cylinder, causing a, "hyper lock," and bent or broke the rod damaging the engine as a result. Has anyone heard of similar issues with the '06 5.4l engines? I'm about 6k over my warranty now, so I'm sure Ford is not going to want to cover anything. But I don't exactly want to pay $7,000 - $8,000 to replace my engine either. I asked the service manager if this was something I could have possibly done through misuse or neglect and he made it quite clear to me that the answer was no, but that was about all he could say. Any advice, info, etc. would be greately appreciated. The only info I could come up with is the blown spark plugs, and that seems to have stopped on the 2003's.

Oct 4, 2007 | 05:39 PM

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I would go back to the dealer and ask to meet with the factory rep in your area. to me, 7000 miles over the warranty isn't that much. that is what I would do if it was me.

Oct 4, 2007 | 07:20 PM

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I have initiated that process. The dealership gave me the number to the corporate office. Not sure where that's going to get me. I agree that 6k isn't that much out of warranty. I could understand them saying you're SOL if I was 12k over, but I went to two different dealerships back in Feb. asking them to thoroughly examine everything before my warranty was up and they said they didn't see anything wrong, but I also know they didn't do any dignostics on it. I'm not here to bash Ford, I just want them to help me fix something that I don't feel I had anything to do with breaking in such a reasonable amount of time. Of course the resale value on my truck just pretty much took a nose dive.

Oct 4, 2007 | 07:32 PM

james5566

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i have a 1984 f250 with a 6.9 does anyone know why im getting black smoke

Oct 4, 2007 | 08:21 PM

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It's hydro-lock. A fluid (gas) is incompressible so when the piston can't push on anything but gas, you break a rod. It's a tough break though.

You need to see an after warranty adjustment. If the Service Manager pretends he doesn't know the term, he's lying. Ford (corporate) will pay a significant portion of the repair costs to the dealership and you will pay a little.

Do this if they don't cover under factory warranty.

Oct 4, 2007 | 09:07 PM

jmfrost

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Thanks for the clarification, and thanks for the advice. I've already responded to Ford with the diagnosis and will contact the service manager tomorrow to ask about the after warranty adjustment. I can deal with paying for something, "reasonable," and write it off as my stupidity for waiting too long to take advantage of the extended warranty. I just think it would be unfair to leave me hanging completely for something that I was clearly not at fault for and so close the warranty period. My concern now, after having the engine replaced, is what will I have to look forward to in the future.

Oct 4, 2007 | 10:25 PM

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Check (search) in the F-150 forum. There has been a lot of discussion on this subject, as the trucks have had the 3V engine since '04.

You will find several with the same problem at much lower miles.

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Oct 5, 2007 | 05:38 PM

james5566

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I ment to say that it gets white smoke thanks for the reply

Oct 9, 2007 | 02:15 PM

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Well, Ford stuck it to me. I was seeking the after warranty adjustment and they basically told me that since there are no recalls or anything on this defect that they can't do anything for me. All he could do is give me the address to the board of directors. Someone mentioned other posts on here about similar issues that I had. Either I can't find anything, or I turn up a million results. Can someone please point me in the right direction of technical serviec bulletins, etc. related to this problem? Thanks,

Oct 10, 2007 | 02:46 AM

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yardbird

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Try this thread:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...injector+stuck

and this:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/4...injector+stuck

here:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...ight=injectors

and here:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...ight=injectors

There are threads all over the 2004-2007 F-150 forums on this. Just search "injectors".

Oct 10, 2007 | 06:43 AM

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Could the injector really dump enough fuel such that there was not enough airspace left to absorb the cylinder compression? It seems like that would take a lot of fuel.