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What vehicles have the 428 in them? I need to know so I can be on the lookout. Also there is this guy that wants to sell me a 390 FE motor that has been sitting out for a long, long, time for $150.00. What do you think, just let it set? 
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428:1966-1968 Ford Galaxie models&1966-1967 Ford Thunderbirds.The 428 Police Interceptor version(360 vs.340-345hp)was put into 1966-1970 Galaxies.On April 1st,1968 the 428 Cobra Jet engine was offered(335 underrated hp...).These could be found in:1968-1969 Torino/Fairlane models,1968-1970 Mustangs,1968-1970 cougars,and 1968-1969 Cyclone/Montego models.A complete 390 engine for only $150?I'd say buy it.
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Ha! Good luck on that search for a 427. I'd say they're easier to find than a 410, but that's just because they're worth so much money that nobody has a 427-equipped car rusting on the back 40. A 427 will run you 10 grand or more, unless it's a basket case, and even then it'll cost many thousands.
The cheapest and most reasonable way to get really big torque in a FE is to make a 410 out of a 360. You could also make that 360 into a 428 by boring it .080 over (look for a 74-76 "reverse 105" block, as they have thicker cylinder walls that are more likely to take an .080 over bore). Failing that, find a 428 and rebuild it. It'll probably cost a little more, but not a lot more.
For big high-revving power, go with a 390. Bore it out as much as you safely can (an .080 over bore in a 390 equals a 406). Blueprint it, balance it, port the heads, and give it good intake and exhaust. In the end, you'll have an engine that performs at 95% of what a 427 would do, for about 25% of the cost.
The cheapest and most reasonable way to get really big torque in a FE is to make a 410 out of a 360. You could also make that 360 into a 428 by boring it .080 over (look for a 74-76 "reverse 105" block, as they have thicker cylinder walls that are more likely to take an .080 over bore). Failing that, find a 428 and rebuild it. It'll probably cost a little more, but not a lot more.
For big high-revving power, go with a 390. Bore it out as much as you safely can (an .080 over bore in a 390 equals a 406). Blueprint it, balance it, port the heads, and give it good intake and exhaust. In the end, you'll have an engine that performs at 95% of what a 427 would do, for about 25% of the cost.
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Incidentally, 427s have always been extremely rare in street cars. They were designed strictly for NASCAR, and Ford put only enough into street cars to satisfy the NASCAR's homologation rules -- the rest went straight to race teams. Even the legendary 427 Cobras did not, for the most part, have 427s in them. Most came from the factory with 428s, because Shelby couldn't get enough 427s.
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Yeah,I heard that too....the 428s being put in Selby Cobras because Ford's stockpile of 427s was in limited supply.In a car that light,many people couldn't tell the difference,probably.Didn't they use a warmed-over 428 PI,and not the standard 428?To answer that question what did 427s come in:1963-1968 Galaxie models,1964 Thunderbolts,1966-1967 Fairlanes,1965-1967 Shelby Cobras,1968 Fairlanes/Torinos,1963-1964 fullsize Mercurys,1966-1967 Comets/Cyclones,1968 Cyclones/Montegos,and 1968 cougars.The last 427 engine offered in 1968 couldn't be ordered after December '67.I think it was rated at 390hp,and had hydraulic lifters.I've seen N.O.S. 4-2-7 1968 fender badges for sale,but I've yet to see a set on a car's fenders.....a 1968 Torino GT would be nice with a 427/C-6,and painted in Dark Highland Green,with a white C-stripe,and argent GT wheels.Incidently,for '68 427s,you had to get a C-6 behind it.Previous 427 engines could only(supposedly...)have a 4-speed behind them,but I've been seeing a lot of 427-equipped cars with C-6s in them,at shows,lately.
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I might just be a little slow, but I still have to ask... What is the difference between a 427 and a 428? Are you refering to the firebreathing 427 single overhead cam?
Or is that a whole different beast?
Marty
Or is that a whole different beast?Marty
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The 427 and 428 are both in the "FE" family of big block engines, but they are very different animals. The 428 is a "square" long-stroke motor designed to produce massive amounts of torque at low rpms - perfect for moving big, heavy cars like Detroit was building in the late 60s. It has a 4.13" bore and a 3.98" stroke.
The 427 is a seriously "oversquare" motor with a bigger bore and a shorter stroke (4.23" bore by 3.78" stroke). It was designed purely for racing. It doesn't produce anywhere near the off-idle torque that the 428 does, but it revs much faster and higher and produces awesome mid to high rpm power.
The 428 was built with standard production car materials - cast iron block, two bolt mains, etc. The 427 was built for the stresses of racing - high nickel blocks, four bolt mains, different oiling patterns to handle extended high rpm use, etc.
The SOHC "cammer" 427 is an extremely rare race-only variant of the 427. Most 427s were overhead valve engines just like every other FE.
The 427 is a seriously "oversquare" motor with a bigger bore and a shorter stroke (4.23" bore by 3.78" stroke). It was designed purely for racing. It doesn't produce anywhere near the off-idle torque that the 428 does, but it revs much faster and higher and produces awesome mid to high rpm power.
The 428 was built with standard production car materials - cast iron block, two bolt mains, etc. The 427 was built for the stresses of racing - high nickel blocks, four bolt mains, different oiling patterns to handle extended high rpm use, etc.
The SOHC "cammer" 427 is an extremely rare race-only variant of the 427. Most 427s were overhead valve engines just like every other FE.
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Go check out the fomoco.com website and you'll find out more about the 427-8 engine. There is tons of information there. Go to the FE website. Then hit search and you'll find that 427s were used in many different applications, from boats to water pump motors and many more uses. I have a 427 stroker (428 crank)in my 66 F-100 and it is really interesting
. Its kind afun to sneak up on a unsuspecting ch**y and work him over.
. Its kind afun to sneak up on a unsuspecting ch**y and work him over.
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