Notices

79 400m noise

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 5, 2007 | 09:06 AM
  #1  
polky's Avatar
polky
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
79 400m noise

79 4oo m heads just rebuilt. but the driver side side make a tapping noise and noise is louder behind front tire towards the tranny. exhaust smokes when engine been running for awhile. when i give it gas and rpms climb it sounds like a deisel truck for some reason? i'm lost. all plugs and wires, cap and rotor replaced. help!!
 
Reply
Old Sep 5, 2007 | 09:36 AM
  #2  
beartracks's Avatar
beartracks
Lead Driver
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 6,628
Likes: 345
From: Albuquerque
The first thing I would do is remove the valve cover on the right side and do a visual inspection before damage is done. Also recheck timing and firing order.
 
Reply
Old Sep 5, 2007 | 08:23 PM
  #3  
danlee's Avatar
danlee
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,270
Likes: 5
From: Delaware
What color is the smoke?

Pull the plugs on that side look for any that are real dark, or real light.
 
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2007 | 07:55 AM
  #4  
polky's Avatar
polky
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
smoke is white, took valve cover off everything looks good. timing is 14 before correct? i does idle a little rough, could it be worn a cam?
 

Last edited by polky; Sep 6, 2007 at 07:58 AM.
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2007 | 08:05 AM
  #5  
danlee's Avatar
danlee
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,270
Likes: 5
From: Delaware
White smoke is water vapor, while blue is oil, black is fuel.

Check the color of the plugs, and do a compression test.
 
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2007 | 10:01 AM
  #6  
beartracks's Avatar
beartracks
Lead Driver
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 6,628
Likes: 345
From: Albuquerque
White smoke could also be tranny fluid if the modulator is ruptured. It would suck tranny fluid into the manifold.
 
Reply
Old Sep 6, 2007 | 07:06 PM
  #7  
danlee's Avatar
danlee
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,270
Likes: 5
From: Delaware
Originally Posted by beartracks
White smoke could also be tranny fluid if the modulator is ruptured. It would suck tranny fluid into the manifold.
Good call, that seems to fit the symtoms.
 
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2007 | 07:52 AM
  #8  
polky's Avatar
polky
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
Its A 4-speed, Where Would The Fluid Come From? I Smell Gas Fumes Really Good While Driving, Does This Mean Anything? JUST CHECKED PLUGS #5 CYLINDER IS BLACK REST LOOK BRAND NEW. COMPRESSION IS FINE. WHEN HEADS WHERE REBUILD THIS CYLINDER NEEDED VALVE REPLACED NOT SEETING. WHAT WOULD CAUSE THIS?
 

Last edited by polky; Sep 7, 2007 at 08:30 AM.
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Sep 7, 2007 | 10:17 AM
  #9  
beartracks's Avatar
beartracks
Lead Driver
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 6,628
Likes: 345
From: Albuquerque
The tranny fluid reply is only for automatics.

It would appear you have identified the problem area. I would look closely at the valve geometry for that cylinder. Make sure the push rods are seated and are not too long as they are not adjustable without shims or different rods.

If the valve is held open it will burn. Also make sure you have spark to that plug.

Good luck.
 
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2007 | 11:32 AM
  #10  
danlee's Avatar
danlee
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,270
Likes: 5
From: Delaware
If the plug is wet with fuel, it means that the cylinder isn't firing.
That could be low compression or no compression or no spark. You should have seen a problem with that cylinder when you took the compression test. Check your plug wires and your firing order again.
 
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2007 | 01:29 PM
  #11  
polky's Avatar
polky
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
I'll Try That
 
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2007 | 04:34 PM
  #12  
2classics's Avatar
2classics
Elder User
20 Year Member
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 620
Likes: 1
From: NE Wisconsin
compression good, black plug means it's firing, but possibly rich? Could it be a problem with the exhast valve not opening far enough/long enough? Sounds like a valvetrain problem, only being on one cyl.
 
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2007 | 08:06 AM
  #13  
polky's Avatar
polky
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
the 2nd rocker in seems loose to me. when torned apart all the lifters where moving fine. could it be a bent rod? bad cam lope? any tips to fine out? not sure what else to do.
 
Reply
Old Sep 8, 2007 | 12:49 PM
  #14  
2classics's Avatar
2classics
Elder User
20 Year Member
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 620
Likes: 1
From: NE Wisconsin
The tapping noise might be a pushrod and rockerarm slapping together. You will have to take out the rods and measure to make sure they are thee correct length, and roll them to see if they are bent. Look at the rocker to see if the contact pattern looks good.
 
Reply
Old Sep 11, 2007 | 08:07 AM
  #15  
polky's Avatar
polky
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
someone told me that it may be the bearing. he says 351-400m are known for oblonging the crank. anyone else have this problem?
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
prime81
6.7L Power Stroke Diesel
26
Oct 30, 2016 10:16 AM
lmarkie
1997 - 2003 F150
24
Feb 25, 2016 01:16 PM
racin
1997 - 2003 F150
1
Jan 14, 2016 10:17 PM
rvpuller
All Things Towing
9
Oct 15, 2015 09:27 PM
F350Man79
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
11
Jul 28, 2014 07:59 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:51 PM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE