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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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Welding ?????

I have a stainless exhaust on my truck,can an Aluminized Exhaust pipe be welded to it?
If they can be welded together,what rod will work best?
 
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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I am not positive about the compatibilities of the two but I am guessing that you will need to TIG weld it. Maybe one of the welders can give you a little more info.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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Not sure what you mean by Aluminized? Stainless an Aluminum are welded into diff. manners. Both can be Tig welded but Aluminum is done with High Frequency and Stainless is not. As to a stick it's either a Stainless rod or a Aluminum rod. If it is mild steel with an aluminum coating then you should be able to grind the coating off and Tig with a stainless filler rod, if you try just to melt mild steel & stainless together with out the filler rod you can get bubbles and a crappy weld.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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Aluminized,im assuming its like a galvanized coated steel.Can this be welded to stainless.Im not even sure if my exhaust is stainless.It cut to easy with the sawsall.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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You can, most factory cat pipes are stainless to handle the heat, and muffler shops weld them all the time. Just use regular 70S-6 wire ( I wouldn't bother with stick unless you like to torture yourself), and have fun.
Aluminized pipe is just that, pipe with a very thin coating of aluminum to help prevent rust. It's that same concept as galvanized, but less toxic fumes when it's heated.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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Use a rod (for arc) or wire (for mig) suitable for stainless and you'll end up with a nice weld, joining the two materials together. Done it a few times using my mig welder with a tri-mix in the tank.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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I have welded both ways, mild to stainless, and stainless to mild... You can use either wire/stick type, and it will work, but in regards to corrosion, the standard is to use stainless. When I was building industrial fans, if the majority was mild, we ran mild wire. If for whatever reason they wanted mild added to a stailness unit, it got welded with stainless.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 05:53 AM
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Hmmm. must not know as much as I thought, keep my mouth shut
 
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 06:43 AM
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Thank guys,going to weld it up today....
 
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 12:59 AM
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Mig weld it with standard wire and gas, stainless to aluminumized welds like regular aluminunized exhaust. The weld will rust.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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309l ss rod (stick, mig or tig wire) is the accepted method for joining stainless to steel. As already mentioned er70s will work just fine.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 01:37 AM
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It's sad to see muffler shops that blast a bead over dirt and rust then call it good. I must go over the top in preparation by cleaning no matter if it's only a Mig job vs Tig as I always prep to bright metal Tig conditions.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 05:18 AM
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It's sad to see muffler shops that blast a bead over dirt and rust then call it good. I must go over the top in preparation by cleaning no matter if it's only a Mig job vs Tig as I always prep to bright metal Tig conditions.
You cant be faulted for trying to do something correctly. I wish more shops would take the time to do stuff right.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 07:30 AM
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It's sad to see muffler shops that blast a bead over dirt and rust then call it good. I must go over the top in preparation by cleaning no matter if it's only a Mig job vs Tig as I always prep to bright metal Tig conditions.
Or how about just blobbing more weld on top of a pipe to try and seal up a leak. The exhaust shop that we took the Expedition to did the same thing.

I have pics of you are interested
 
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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Better yet a repair where a smaller pipe is slipped into a larger pipe against the exhaust flow or stretching a pipe up two sizes. The motor runs who would know unless later the vehicle was lifted again.
Yes the factory stainless pipe will saw real easy. Many muffler shops just use a torch and dribble thru stainless leaving a balled up mess then slip a coupled pipe over, who would know?
I have seen this many times at my friends muffler shop with hash jobs that come in, customer only needs a muffler or cat but the whole systems a mess, better to do a complete replacement. Many times the customer can't afford a complete job requests a patch on hash.
Oops little off topic here.
 
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