http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=HED%2D89270&N=700 +4294908331+4294924755+4294908308+4294923429+115&a utoview=sku

Those are the painted version of the headers I want, some $600 differnce. Anyway, a buddy of mine once told me that he had his painted headers sent out to have them ceramic coated. Is that a falacy? Will that actually be the same thing as getting the ceramic coated ones off the shelf for a little bit cheaper?

Heres the jist of the type of place that i am talking about, anyone ever try something like this?
http://www.classiccoatings.com/index2.html

 

I had a set of stock Buick manifolds ceramic coated by a local coater. They sandblast all old paint, rust, etc., then give them a chemical bath. They are then sprayed with the coating inside and out. The coating is then baked on for a couple hours. They were then placed in a polishing media in a huge vat and vibrated in such a manner as to cause the manifolds to roll and tumble. When the come out, they were polished to a chrome like finish. If they discolor, chrome polish will bring them back. jd

 

how much did that set you back man? I think this is a nice way to save me some money. Is the material used in the painted headers any different than the cermaic coated headers?

 

This was a couple of years ago, and they were V6 manifolds, not headers. They charged me $90. Headers at the time were around $150. jd

 

I know this is off topic, but it appears those headlights are glowing blue. Why?

 

I didnt mean for that signature to be so big. But thoese are my HID's, not ur regular halogen bulb

 

I would put stainless headers on your truck if you plan on keeping it for a long time. Even ceramic coated steel headers will eventually rust.

A while back there was a guy here that always got his headers in plain painted and sent them off to get ceramic coated. Why, because he would go over the headers and smooth down all the welds, remove spatter and etc. which allowed for a longer lasting ceramic coating.

I would figure to spend a minimum of $200 to get a set coated. Shipping will be extra.

 

well i dont think make a stainless header for my truck, but were u suggesitng having it coated with stainless? I guess i wouldnt be surpirsed to have to replace my headers every 4-5 years, it wouldnt be the biggest pain in the ***, but if it means more power, hell, why not

 

Banks makes a set of Stainless Steel long tube headers for your truck. They may be pricey, however they will last the life of your truck.




www.bankspower.com


I would look at a set of Doug Thorley Ceramic Coated headers, I looked on Summits site and they have a set for your truck, they are expensive though, a little under $1,000.



The Stailess Banks headers would be my first choice.

 

Are thoes less flowing then a 4 in 1? Those are super nice! Wow

What kind are these, there nice and cheap, but are these shorties?

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=HED%2D89466&N=700 +4294908331+4294924755+4294908308+4294923429+42948 40123+4294918680+4294799365+115&autoview=sku


But these were the ones i have been thinking about, unless the tri-y header is better, where do these hookers match up with the doug thorleys and banks?>

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Also, who sells the banks headers by themselves?

 

look into jet hot coatings, you will need to send them your headers which is pricy but if you send them new headers they will garentee them for life. Allmost all top fuel racers use jet hot to coat their headers.

 

Those look like mid length headers. (If there is such a Thing) But I guess there actually considered shorties.



The Tri-Ys should give more torque at lower rpms than staindard 4into1 style headers.

You can buy Banks headers separtly. You can get them directly from Banks, however I don't know the names of sites offhand that sell them. Do a search for them. There are several places on the net that sell them separtly.

Those Hookers are definatly long tubes however the flanges are only 5/16" and the tubing is only 18Ga. For that price they should be built better IMO.

The Doug Thorley Tri-Ys have 14Ga. tubing and 3/8" flanges which are much thinker than the Hookers. You will not get as much interior moise from the headers due to the extra thickness of the tubes that the Thorley's have. Notice the Thorley's have a 2.5" collector diameter and most of the others have a 3" collector diameter. The smaller collector should provide more torque compare to the others. The Thorley headers are designed for trucks (Banks too) which require low end torque and not just top end hp like other header manuf. You can get the Doug Thorley headers directly from Doug Thorley and maybe you could get a better price by telling them you do not need the Y-pipe that comes with because your running duals.


These are what I consider Shorties. (These fit my 6.8l V10)

 

Jet hot sucks, I sent new Doug Thorley's to them coated inside and out three times and they F**ked 'em up every time, they even engraved numbers into the flange mating surface on the collector extensions causing exhaust leaks with copper gaskets. Had HPC strip jet hots crap off and coat with their product inside and out, not a bit of a problem or rust going on 5 years.
HPC is FAA approved for radial aircraft engine exhausts.
Use what process makes you happy.

 

thank you very much dfk for in depth explantations. I def find those dough thorleys to be top notch, and tha banks. I never saw the flaws in the hookers like you were describing. WIll those try y headers be a bitch to install?

 

The Tri-Ys should be no different to install than any other set of long tubes. Maybe they would be a tad easier to finagle in place because of the smaller dia. collector.

Thorley offers Chrome Plating or Ceramic coating. I think the ceramic would be best. The chrome will definatley rust up quick.

Also before ordering the headers you need to know if you have a EGR system on your truck or not. I'm not really up on the 95' 460 you have in your truck, however with my 04' F250 SD some have EGR and some don't. (I don't have EGR) You have to know where to look to verify if you have EGR or not.