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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 01:59 PM
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alright Im 16 years old and my dad got me a 1972 Ford F-100 for a father son project. He knows alot about vehicles and trucks,but I want to know somethings on my own.Its a Long wheel base,3-speed manual,converted to the floor(we bought it that way),and in good condition(minor body damage,no mechanical). Well before this,I knew nothing of Ford engines except mustangs,which has the 5.0....which i found out is the same kind in my truck! So I thought there must be interchangeble parts for them. I was wondering is the transmission interchangable? Cause I like the 3-speed and everything,but if it was 5 speed that would super cool. Also,if shopped for performance parts(headers,intake,superchargers,etc.) could I buy them for mustang,but put them on my truck? Since I'm young I want to keep the engine instead of swapping it,but I want some good amount of power for it.So my ulimate question is...is every part interchangable from mustang 5.0 or just some? Espicially transmission?
 
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by AZ-302
alright Im 16 years old and my dad got me a 1972 Ford F-100 for a father son project. He knows alot about vehicles and trucks,but I want to know somethings on my own.Its a Long wheel base,3-speed manual,converted to the floor(we bought it that way),and in good condition(minor body damage,no mechanical). Well before this,I knew nothing of Ford engines except mustangs,which has the 5.0....which i found out is the same kind in my truck! So I thought there must be interchangeble parts for them. I was wondering is the transmission interchangable? Cause I like the 3-speed and everything,but if it was 5 speed that would super cool. Also,if shopped for performance parts(headers,intake,superchargers,etc.) could I buy them for mustang,but put them on my truck? Since I'm young I want to keep the engine instead of swapping it,but I want some good amount of power for it.So my ulimate question is...is every part interchangable from mustang 5.0 or just some? Espicially transmission?

Yes, all 302's and 351W's and 351C's share the same bolt pattern for the bellhousing.

Where you may run into a little work is repositioning the transmission mount and getting a driveshaft to work. (correct spline and length).

Headers may be specific because of frame rails. All intakes will interchange.


The 85's and up do use a roller cam set up.....some differences in the blocks and pushrod lengths.


'81 and older use a different balance, so don't mix and match flywheels/harmonic balancers.


There may be more......try to be specific (like your transmission/intake question) and there will always be someone here with the answer.



Good luck and have fun.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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Alright,I wasnt really asking for an answer,but more of a..."it can be done" type of a answer,thank you
 
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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The Mustang 5 speed will not be a bolt in swap to replace the 3 speed. The total length is different, that means shortening the driveshaft. Then there's the shifter and location. It's farther back than yours, meaning more floor pan surgery. Then the shifters for the T5 are too short, unless you want to duck behind the dash evertime you shift. Then the bolt pattern and input shaft length are different, you'd have to use the Stang bell, then that creates more problems with the clutch linkage as the T5 bell uses a different pivot point for the clutch (your clutch linkage pushes on the clutch fork, the Stang setup pulls the fork) than the 3 speed bell. Your best solution, if you can get one at the right price for you, is a Toploader 4 speed to replace the 3 speed, that will bolt in but still require a shortened driveshaft. And possibly floor surgery too, depending on the Toploader you end up with. Plus side is it's a bullet proof transmission just as your 3 speed is. The T5's are fragile in stock form........................As for your engine questions, I'll say this. If your truck has the original motor and hasn't been rebuilt, it's got pistons in it with Grand Canyon sized dishes in the tops. The compression ratio sucks----8 to 1. Bolt on heads with larger chambers than yours have, and you lower that, something you don't want with what you have now. If you want to start beefing up the hp ratings, the pistons are the first thing that need to go. These pistons were used in 72-77 302's, steer clear of these. Don't add anything else other than maybe exhaust mods, till the comp ratio's been upgraded to at least 9 to 1.
 

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Yes.. anything can be done. There is only one 5.0 block, so parts will interchange between the cars and trucks. But beware, just because it can be done doesn't make it a good idea. Trucks are much heavier and need different choices for hot rod parts than a car would. When you have a specific question come back and post it here...
 
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Welcome to the site!

Many Mustang parts will physically fit, but wouldn't be the best choice for use in a truck. The Mustang is a passenger car which weighs much less than a truck and has different demands placed on it. In a nutshell, they're designed for high RPM horsepower, and what you need in a truck is low RPM torque or it's just going to be a dog which won't be a lot of fun to drive. In essence you could take a complete Mustang engine, strip every part off of it and install them on your truck motor and yes, they'd fit. Some would work okay for your application and some wouldn't.

For a truck, I would look for an M5R2 5-speed from an '88 or newer 5.0/5.8 equipped truck rather than the Mustang's T5.

Also, you are now the proud owner of what we refer to as a "Bumpside" truck. Drop by and see us in the '67-72 forum where we can give you whatever info you need specific to the truck itself:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/f...php?forumid=39
 
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Originally Posted by TigerDan
Welcome to the site!

Many Mustang parts will physically fit, but wouldn't be the best choice for use in a truck. The Mustang is a passenger car which weighs much less than a truck and has different demands placed on it. In a nutshell, they're designed for high RPM horsepower, and what you need in a truck is low RPM torque or it's just going to be a dog which won't be a lot of fun to drive. In essence you could take a complete Mustang engine, strip every part off of it and install them on your truck motor and yes, they'd fit. Some would work okay for your application and some wouldn't.
You must not be very familiar with the stock 85-95 Mustang 5.0 to make a statement like this. 90% of the pickup/van and Mustang 5.0's are built with the same parts. In a 94-97 pickup/van 5.0, the difference is miniscule. The cams are nearly the same grind, the pickup cam (F4TE roller)is barely a step under the Mustang grind. Same heads, same piston compression height (same pistons for both after 93) same rods, blocks, cranks, etc. Only major difference was the induction. Contrary to what you've posted here, the 86-95 Mustang 5.0 was optimized for bottom end torque, not high rpm horsepower. The heads quit flowing after about 4500 rpms. Ford was well aware of this fact as well, that was the way they designed the HO 5.0. That is also why they developed the iron GT40 heads, which by the way, were used in more trucks than Mustangs.(Lightnings, and all the Explorer/Mountaineers had GT40 heads paired with the pickup truck F4TE roller cam) The GT40 heads were also used in Marine applications, where torque is more a must than top end horsepower.
 

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Get Ford's "The Official Ford 5.0 Mustang" book by Al Kirschenbaum and read up on it. This book was put out by Ford Racing, Summit racing carries it. It's the best, most complete book on the 79-2001 5.0/302 you'll find.
 
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