axle twist
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From: Belair md
axle twist
i am sick of my axle twist, it is so bad that if i get on the truck hard it will lift the rear so high that it will hit the tailpipe, the shudder is ungodly and there is no shimming of the carrier bearing to fix this as the truck is lifted and the correct shim is installed, does anybody else have lifted trucks adn are you running the tracton bars. also how does it affect your ride quality as i have heard that it causes a harder ride and limits suspension travel, i am looking at these from summit
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
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Joined: Jun 2007
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From: Austin, TX
i'm not too sure about the 4x4's, but my truck does that really bad as well if i stomp on it in 2nd gear. cody(RubberDuck) built his own ladder bars and his truck rode pretty good when i rode in it and when he gave it some juice in 2nd the rear axle didn't hop at all.
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From: Belair md
i dont hop, in a burnout tis smooth but under a full throttle in first gear it will actually lift the rear springs to the point that it fully unloades them and hits my tailpipe, the shudder is describable as that of a carrier bearing in need of a shim but multiply it X10 and that is where i am at, i had somebody drive it so i could watch and good god the angle is horrific under full load in first gear, i dont know how i havent thrown a shaft yet, i figure for 150 bucks i cant go wrong but i want to know if they will have a negative effect on my ride? i have heard people say that the bars limit your articulation when climbing over objects and the road ride is changed as well? i am looking for anybody who has them that can confirm or deny that assumption
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From: Marble Falls, Texas
c00n, ladder bars will stop that and not change the ride much. Check out L&L products they have some good bars. I built my own, but if you aren't into that there are several companys that will do the trick. But your axle wrap will only get worse. It rounds the spring perches off and an just goes down hill. I highly suggest you invest in some bars asap.
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From: Belair md
ewww the spring ends or the perches themselves? how about the bars in my first post? i've seen them on trucks around here but can never get a chance to talk to them
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The perches themselves get rounded off. Those bars are good. A friend of mine had them on a GMC. Pretty good road manners. But I can't remember how they mounted to the axle. Bars that only have two mounting points are tricky because if they aren't long enough to follow the arc of the spring compression they will bind up and break the mount or something else. This is the style I run, but I made them a little longer than the d-shaft to follow the spring arc, which ain't much.
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i am actually building a set for my truck as we speak... here are some pics
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...dder-bars.html
<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/WunTunEarlyBKO/MiscBroncoShotsAndNewShaftsCoversGears/photo#5067611630889207474"><img src="http://lh3.google.com/WunTunEarlyBKO/RlPF7c7KBrI/AAAAAAAAAOI/4MtVAJ0B0zI/s400/DSCN0054.JPG" /></a>
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https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...dder-bars.html
<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/WunTunEarlyBKO/MiscBroncoShotsAndNewShaftsCoversGears/photo#5067611630889207474"><img src="http://lh3.google.com/WunTunEarlyBKO/RlPF7c7KBrI/AAAAAAAAAOI/4MtVAJ0B0zI/s400/DSCN0054.JPG" /></a>
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i have a shackle that i mounted the single link to. you can see my pics if you follow my link i posted
that ladder bar is setup on my bronco and i can flex the heck out of it but it keeps my rear 39" iroks planted hard on the ground!
this is with my ladder bar mounted
<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/WunTunEarlyBKO/NewBeadlocks/photo#5082396121915900530"><img src="http://lh3.google.com/WunTunEarlyBKO/RohMWF6ewnI/AAAAAAAAAoM/VM-OAFs-Gqc/s288/DSCN0117.JPG" /></a>
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that ladder bar is setup on my bronco and i can flex the heck out of it but it keeps my rear 39" iroks planted hard on the ground!
this is with my ladder bar mounted
<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/WunTunEarlyBKO/NewBeadlocks/photo#5082396121915900530"><img src="http://lh3.google.com/WunTunEarlyBKO/RohMWF6ewnI/AAAAAAAAAoM/VM-OAFs-Gqc/s288/DSCN0117.JPG" /></a>
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I also run a traction bar similar to fishmann's on my Jeep. The idea is two mounts on the axle and then a single mount to the frame crossmember that uses a shackle, or two heim joints, or some combination of two joints that allows the traction bar to move slightly sideways, forward and backward, rotate, but not move vertically. This lets the rear axle suspension move as it wants to but the axle absolutely cannot twist/rotate, eliminating spring wrap. We run these on our leaf sprung 4x4's since we run soft springs for articulation and travel, and then need something to control spring wrap.
I use two heim joints on mine, one bolted through the other, but most use a shackle like this one from Sam's Offroad: Sam's traction bar
I use two heim joints on mine, one bolted through the other, but most use a shackle like this one from Sam's Offroad: Sam's traction bar