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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Transmission temp ???

In recent months I've seen my transmission temps spike unexpectedly. I don't tow, I have an Evo II with Jody's 80 HP econo tune, and the transmission fluid was changed to full synthetic in the last 4000 miles.

Example: last week, I made a 165 mile trip up and over the hill into Denver. On the way over, outside temp was 58-62 most of the way and the trans temp hovered in the low 160s with minor spikes to 170 when crossing the passes. Once in Denver, outside temp was 88 and trans temp moved up to 175 or so. I did several errands around town, and just as I got ready to leave, the trans temp started to climb, reaching 202 before I even got back on the freeway. Outside temp had even fallen into low 70s due to an incoming storm.

Once I started up the hill, the trans temp started to come down, and reached high 160s by the time I reached the tunnel.

As I said, this has now happened on a couple of occasions. Trans temp goes up, then comes back down for no apparent reason, or in the example here, counter to expected behavior.

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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by srauner
I did several errands around town, and just as I got ready to leave, the trans temp started to climb, reaching 202 before I even got back on the freeway. Outside temp had even fallen into low 70s due to an incoming storm.
Outside temps are only part of the equation.

By "errands around town" can we assume lots of slow and go traffic? The tranny temps depend a great deal on airflow over the cooler mounted behind the AC evaporator. Use of the AC, and the amount of air moving thru the front end of the truck can change things a lot!

Can you correlate your "spikes" to AC use, or slow and go driving in town where not much air moves thru the front?
 
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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Also I wouldn't be that worried about 202, I have been told that 220 is where you need to start thinking about pulling over and letting the truck idle in nuetral to cool the tranny off.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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The dealer told me that even prolonged running at 200 can cause a seal to fail.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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The dealer doesn't know what he's talking about.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
The dealer doesn't know what he's talking about.
Mark, don't sugar coat it for us... Tell us what you really think.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 03:46 PM
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ok...So what is a safe temp to stay under?
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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ok...So what is a safe temp to stay under?
100 degrees. If you can invent a method to do it.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
The dealer doesn't know what he's talking about.
Mark,
With a Torqueshift and mercon SP at what temp does hot enough to do harm begin?

RoyC
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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I believe the consensus in the 6.0L forum is if you get over 220°F pull over and let it idle in park to cool down (obviously if you are in the middle of the hill try to make it up and then pull over, I believe 240 is where they say permanent damage is likely).
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by VaSheriff
100 degrees. If you can invent a method to do it.
Just don't drive...
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 05:43 PM
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B-Stalker,

That is good to know. Are the 6.0L running a 4R100 Trans?
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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No the TorqShift (I believe that's the 5R110 isn't it). I was answering RoyC's question. I'm not terribly familiar with the temps on the 4R100. I would think it would depend on the fluid used (The TorqShift has to have Mercon SP and Motorcraft is the only one that makes it so far).
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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I've alwyas used this as a gauge

 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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Trans temps can get pretty high before physical damage occurs. According to most information I can find, you don't have to worry unless you get all the way to about 240 degrees. If you do get that hot, you need to change fluids asap.

My temps got up to about 225 on moutain grades pulling over 10K. After that trip, I installed a secondary cooler which has dropped temps about 30 degrees for me. I added the exact same cooler in the second link and can't be happier. Took me about 90 mins from start to finish.

Here's a couple of reference articles:
http://www.tciauto.com/Products/TechInfo/trans_life_expectancy.asp
http://www.dieselpage.com/art0898hy.htm
 
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