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I am wiring up a 555 timer and was wondering what/which, if any circuit receives power only after the truck is turned to off. i.e. Something that only becomes powered and active when the key is turned to off. Also on the accessory delay, what wire color is it for the radio? Is it the main power wire? What color?? Thanks in advance!
Sounds like a pretty good security system idea.
Something that would kill the ground to the PCM if it get powered up for any reason, for instance.
Cranky cranky, no starty.
Why not use it to kill power from within the column for the starter wire as well? No start is good, but no cranky... hehehe.... good luck pushing that truck for a bump-start!!!
A lot of thieves know that this (no crank at all) is a common strategy of an installed alarm, and can simply "hot wire" the starter solenoid. Takes seconds to restore the starter, and believe me, if they're stealing a SuperDuty, they already know how!
When I designed my own "disabler", I chose to interrupt the power to the IDM box, so that the instrument panel would appear perfectly normal, and it would crank normally(and make noise doing so), it just would not start.
One way is a sure sign that the solenoid wire needs to be jumpered, the other way needs a lot more diagnosis (and time) to get the truck running. YMMV.
But, we still don't know that "start disable" is the original poster's application for his 555, and kinda likely is not. I'm more inclined to think he wasn't to flash a light when the truck is off to simulate a theft deterrent system.
For those of you that have read my write-up on how I did mine (it's www.springerpop.net/F350/disabler.html ), you know there's already a place in our instrument panels that reads "THEFT" in red when backlit. Maybe that's what he wants to flash with the 555.
Pop
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A lot of thieves know that this (no crank at all) is a common strategy of an installed alarm, and can simply "hot wire" the starter solenoid. Takes seconds to restore the starter.
When I designed my own "disabler", I chose to interrupt the power to the IDM box, so that the instrument panel would appear perfectly normal, and it would crank normally(and make noise doing so), it just would not start.
One way is a sure sign that the solenoid wire needs to be jumpered, the other way needs a lot more diagnosis (and time) to get the truck running. YMMV.
But, we still don't know that "start disable" is the original poster's application for his 555, and kinda likely is not.
Pop
Very good points. So maybe I'll just leave my Akita out by the truck. Kinda hard to start a truck when your arm has been torn off!!
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I am wiring up a 555 timer and was wondering what/which, if any circuit receives power only after the truck is turned to off. i.e. Something that only becomes powered and active when the key is turned to off. Also on the accessory delay, what wire color is it for the radio? Is it the main power wire? What color?? Thanks in advance!
This can be easily done with a basic SPDT relay. Simply wire the coil side up so that the relay is powered with a 12vdc switched source, and then a Hot wire to the common terminal. Your NC position now only becomes hot when the relay is off. Or if you want to get fancy, you could wire your Hot to the NC position, ground to the NO position, load to the common and you will have a +12vdc when the key is off, and ground when the key is on. Just make sure you fuse the ckt of course.
Just get a DP Tuner. Position "0" is No-Start. Set it to 0 and when you stick the F5 switch in your pocket, the PCM is dead -- it ain't goin' no where except on a flat-bed.
Just get a DP Tuner. Position "0" is No-Start. Set it to 0 and when you stick the F5 switch in your pocket, the PCM is dead -- it ain't goin' no where except on a flat-bed.
Joe
BINGO!!! well, for those that have a DP anyway, but since I do, that'll work awesome for me!!
The 555 timer is actually for a security system... Good observation! I don't have a DP tuner in fear the tuner may shorten the trucks life span due to not being engineered for the extra power... I may just be crazy though... I never thought of doing a spdt relay...thanks for that....will do that definately. I would take my dog with me, but she'd have to stay in the truck all day, they don't allow dogs at work unfortunately, and she's my home's security system... haha, guess I need a new job and more dogs... On a side note, is the main 12v feed to the radio the same as the accessory delay feature? I have a backup camera that I want to only be active with the accessory delay, 20 min if my memory serves me right.... thanks for the help!
The 555 timer is actually for a security system... Good observation! I don't have a DP tuner in fear the tuner may shorten the trucks life span due to not being engineered for the extra power... I may just be crazy though... ///SNIP///
As long as you stay within the limits posted here (25psi boost, ~1250 EGT, and below ~220* tranny temps), you'll be okay. You might want to help longevity of your tranny (even applies to the stock tune) by some kind of shift kit or valve body upgrade....
To sum it up, I don't think Jody's tunes will kill your truck any sooner than stock unless you take it over the known limits.
I agree with Izzy. Your transmission won't last behind a stock motor without help. and at normal power levels your routine maintenance is what will dictate engine life. Keep the power at about a 75 bump, and do Blackstone oil reports every oil change to monitor your motor.