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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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Found my annoying problem

Past few weeks I've noticed my truck was extremely laggy on the bottom end, smoking heavy when taking off from a light, and idling funny (RPM's surging from 500-850). My boost gauge was reading very low boost for several weeks, but EGT's were normal. So I've been struggling to find the problem.

Poking under the hood yesterday the only thing I found was my fuel bowl heater element was unplugged. The wire was just hanging there in the engine valley. No other problems were found, so I plugged it in and took it for a drive. To my surprise the engine idle was back to normal, and the smoke on the bottom end was gone. Never knew the fuel heater in the stock bowl was so important.

Boost was still reading low, so today I finally traced it to the back of the gauge, where the fitting was hanging on not even finger tight. Finally figured that one out when the gauge quit working yesterday, and I was hearing air rushing in from the pillar pod.

Anyway, thought it was interesting with the whole fuel heater thing. Figured I'd pass it along.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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Curtis, I'd bet on the boost leak being the problem more than the fuel bowl heater. That being said I'm going to send you a PM continuing me picking your brain on some of my upgrades.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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Glad to hear you got the problem fixed, but man get RID of that thing!
 
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by strokin_it7.3
Glad to hear you got the problem fixed, but man get RID of that thing!
Of what thing? The OE fuel bowl, or just the heater?
 
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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I think he's referring to the fuel bowl.

Curtis, I'd bet on the boost leak being the problem more than the fuel bowl heater.
The thing is that I fixed the fuel bowl heater yesterday, and noticed the improvement when I drove it last night. Fixing the boost gauge today didn't change anything, other than now the gauge is reading accurate.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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I didn't think the 99 ups had a heater in the fuel bowl I thought it was heated by the mixxing vavle in the tank
 
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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Its in the bowl.....
 
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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Glad you found the prob, Curtis. I didn't think the fuel bowl heater really had much importance, but perhaps it does.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 09:04 PM
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I don't understand how the heater made any difference at all. I've been running with the fuel heater unplugged for years. Makes no difference.

I wonder if the leak at your gauge was enough to steal pressure from the MAP sensor.

Now that the leak is fixed, if you go unplug the heater element does it go back to running poorly?
 
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 09:57 PM
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Didn't really try it Cookie since all the difference was made when I plugged the heater element in yesterday. I didn't touch the boost gauge until today and when I did it didn't make a bit of difference in performance. My EGT's were never high so I don't think the leak was really all that bad. Never could get the EGT's over 1200 at WOT. Might try unplugging the heater again tomorrow and see if it makes a difference.

Just driving the truck yesterday and today it's a noticeable difference. There's no smoke when I take off at a light, idle is smoother, and low end power is back. I actually barked the tires on a few right hand turns. Haven't done that for several weeks unless I really got on it. Big mystery to me too, I never thought the heater was that important or would have that much of an effect.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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This is surprising to me as well. The fuel gets heated up pretty quickly in the fuel rails.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 11:04 PM
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This is surprising to me as well. The fuel gets heated up pretty quickly in the fuel rails.
True, but does the bowl heater also sense and feed info back to the PCM. I mean think of all the problems folks have when it shorts out. Yeah, I know when it shorts it pops the fuse and thats what causes most of those probs.... but why?
 
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Old Aug 16, 2007 | 11:11 PM
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I was under the impression that the fuel heater was only necessary for the Powerstroke to be able to start in arctic (central Minnesota) winters.

Whooda' thunkit?

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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bdrummonds
True, but does the bowl heater also sense and feed info back to the PCM. I mean think of all the problems folks have when it shorts out. Yeah, I know when it shorts it pops the fuse and thats what causes most of those probs.... but why?
No it doesn't. The problems that arise from it shorting out are due to the fact the power feed for the heater is fused on the same circuit as the PCM KAM. So when the fuse blows it takes the PCM power with it.

The heater is a single wire....there's no feedback from it at all. That's what has me confused about this situation. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad the truck is running right....I just don't get how plugging the heater in fixed it. Like I posted earlier, mine is unplugged now and has been forever, and it is not an uncommon practice to simply clip the heater wire off when it does short out.
 
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