Notices
Modular V10 (6.8l)  

460 vs. V-10

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 27, 2002 | 01:13 PM
  #31  
big block power's Avatar
big block power
Senior User
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 465
Likes: 0
460 vs. V-10

psd came out in 88, then it was improved before 00 I think
cause the 93 psd had nasty exhuast and had to use ether
to start it sometmes in the cold.but the 00 psd (both 350 crew)
has clean exhuast and is hassle free affter 106 000 km.
I guess its just whatever turns your crank! cause I would
rather drive gas powered stuff around but deisel is
good for work.V-10s seem real smooth etc but its a new
engine that is in the crude start out.sticking valve,
lifters, piston slap,blown gaskets(head)etc. occuring
before 50 000miles sometimes,460cid can make more than
one needle move at quite a pace under heavy reving.



Fe power
 
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2002 | 03:28 PM
  #32  
mickelsons's Avatar
mickelsons
Thread Starter
|
Tuned
25 Year Member
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 393
Likes: 3
From: Merrill
460 vs. V-10

No '88 was not a power stroke diesel. it was just the 7.3 liter disel it did not change to the direct injection power stroke unill 1994. they did try a indirect injection turbo for a year or so before the direct injection turbo charged (AKA Powerstroke Diesel).

as for any changes between '94 and presant i don't believe that there were many if any at all.


If you had to use ether on your truck then your glow plugs needed to be looked into.


 
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2002 | 08:41 PM
  #33  
builtfordtough1985's Avatar
builtfordtough1985
Freshman User
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
460 vs. V-10

The previous poster is correct, in '88 it was a 7.3L indirect injection, the Direct Injection Powerstroke came in '94. All Powerstrokes are turbocharged, but the early models were not intercooled. I don't think they became intercooled until '98 or '99. The first powerstrokes produced 425 lb-ft of torque. Then when the intercooler was added, it was increased to 500 lb-ft. Now it has been eased up to 525 lb-ft. (Units built after January 14, 2002).
 
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2002 | 08:46 PM
  #34  
builtfordtough1985's Avatar
builtfordtough1985
Freshman User
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
460 vs. V-10

Next year Ford will release the new 6.0 Liter Generation 2 Powerstroke. It'll have 350 Horsepower and 600 lb-ft of torque! Dodge is also coming out with an improved Cummins next year, but it will only have 305 Horsepower and 555 lb-ft of torque. And once again, Chevy will be last in the Diesel war, with their Duramax only putting out 300 Horsepower and 520 lb-ft of torque. Chevy always was a loser when it came to Diesels, and, heck, just about everything else too!
 
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2002 | 09:12 PM
  #35  
mechanic88115's Avatar
mechanic88115
Freshman User
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
From: USA
460 vs. V-10

I like both the v10 and the 460 very much. They 460 has really good low end power and will pull very well, the v10 is not as strong low end, but due to the overhead cam design it will pull alot better in the upper rpm. The v10 does not have a problem with sticking lifters, because it doesn't have them it is overhead cam . If you can aford the 99 and up go for the 10, if not go for the 460, either way you won't be disapointed. Hope this helps, Mason
 
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2002 | 01:11 AM
  #36  
lvstang's Avatar
lvstang
Senior User
25 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 458
Likes: 1
460 vs. V-10

>The previous poster is correct, in '88 it was a 7.3L
>indirect injection, the Direct Injection Powerstroke came in
>'94. All Powerstrokes are turbocharged, but the early
>models were not intercooled. I don't think they became
>intercooled until '98 or '99. The first powerstrokes
>produced 425 lb-ft of torque. Then when the intercooler was
>added, it was increased to 500 lb-ft. Now it has been eased
>up to 525 lb-ft. (Units built after January 14, 2002).


I believe the first diesels were the 6.9's, not 7.3.

 
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2002 | 10:44 AM
  #37  
mechanic88115's Avatar
mechanic88115
Freshman User
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
From: USA
460 vs. V-10

The first year for ford to offer a full size pickup with the diesel was 1983 with the 6.9L. The 6.9 was offered through the body change in 1987,in 1988 the 7.3L indirect injection was offered and was the only choice till 1993 when they offered a turbo version of that engine, there was also a 7.3 that was offered in 93-94 that I am not sure about it was something different I believe that ford made it but not sure, it was a turbo charged engine, that had some sort of computer control system on it, but I have not seen one in person. In 1994.5 the direct injected 7.3L was offered, this is the powerstroke, but was not badged as such till the 1995 model year this engine was offered in it's 210hp 425 torque version till 1997 when the 5 speeds gota 225hp version. In real late 1997 or early 1998(I can't remember for sure) as a 99 model the addition of a intercooler caused the hp to go up to 235 hp for both auto and the new 6 speed standard. In the 2001 model year the hp was upped (By programing and fuel delivery system mods I believe) to 250hp for the auto, and 275hp for the 6speed, and that is were we set now. I have not seen anything yet that was positive on the g2 psd, but it sounds interesting, and the international version (the "VT365") should be at the international house's right now. Ok this is the off topic overrun on the history of ford diesels . If I have missed something please feel free to add it in a post below, Hope this helps, Mason
 
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2002 | 11:46 AM
  #38  
lvstang's Avatar
lvstang
Senior User
25 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 458
Likes: 1
460 vs. V-10

>The first year for ford to offer a full size pickup with the
>diesel was 1983 with the 6.9L. The 6.9 was offered through
>the body change in 1987,in 1988 the 7.3L indirect injection
>was offered and was the only choice till 1993 when they
>offered a turbo version of that engine, there was also a 7.3
>that was offered in 93-94 that I am not sure about it was
>something different I believe that ford made it but not
>sure, it was a turbo charged engine, that had some sort of
>computer control system on it, but I have not seen one in
>person. In 1994.5 the direct injected 7.3L was offered,
>this is the powerstroke, but was not badged as such till the
>1995 model year this engine was offered in it's 210hp 425
>torque version till 1997 when the 5 speeds gota 225hp
>version. In real late 1997 or early 1998(I can't remember
>for sure) as a 99 model the addition of a intercooler caused
>the hp to go up to 235 hp for both auto and the new 6 speed
>standard. In the 2001 model year the hp was upped (By
>programing and fuel delivery system mods I believe) to 250hp
>for the auto, and 275hp for the 6speed, and that is were we
>set now. I have not seen anything yet that was positive on
>the g2 psd, but it sounds interesting, and the international
>version (the "VT365") should be at the international house's
>right now. Ok this is the off topic overrun on the history
>of ford diesels . If I have missed something please
>feel free to add it in a post below, Hope this helps,
>Mason



Great info!!!

 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old May 17, 2002 | 11:48 PM
  #39  
Outpost22's Avatar
Outpost22
Posting Guru
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,328
Likes: 0
From: Medford USA!
460 vs. V-10

Had 2 - 460's and liked the torque. Problem is that the power curve is short and doesn't work well with the auto tranny. I was always searching for another gear to pull my tractor up the big hill. Heck, my Toyota v-6 flatbed would tow my tractor up the mountain at 65 in 3rd gear while the 460 would not pull 3rd auto and have to max out second gear at 52 mph. I'm sure the 460 "stick shaker" would do better.
The v-10 has no such problems. It will maximize your gear selection with a broad powerband. You can shortshift at 1600 rpm or wind it to 5k.
I think the 460 is a good motorhome motor, but for everything else, I'm glad I've got the "10" now.

As far as mileage, the "10" gets 25% better mileage than both the 460's I had. Just my HO
 
Reply
Old May 18, 2002 | 11:22 PM
  #40  
mustange70's Avatar
mustange70
Post Fiend
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 5,871
Likes: 0
From: Coutts Canada
460 vs. V-10

Remember there's no replacement for displacement. Just so you know, the 460 will probably be cheaper to fix, and cheaper to get more hp and torque out of. And plus you can always go the junkyards and find an old 460 and have fun with it and put it your truck.



82' Flareside: zoom zoom doesn't even begin to describe it
2/4 Drop
Soon to have 325hp 351 Clevo
(maybe more,in a 3600lb truck)
Backed by a C6 with a 2000 rpm stall and a 3.50 9 incher
American Racing AR-23 (series 23) wheels
Upgraded interior
Soon to have a kick @$$ stereo

 
Reply
Old Jan 7, 2003 | 10:50 PM
  #41  
95_250460's Avatar
95_250460
New User
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
From: MO
460 vs. V-10

personally i like both motors, as for as pulling we pull our 25ft gooesneck around loaded with our highlift and my brothers v10 seems to pickup speed faster but as for as holding a hill i don't think it makes much difference they both hang in there pretty good. the 460 definetly has more low end torque i ain't got a tach in mine so don't know what the best rpm range is for the pulling, the v10 seems to have the most power between 3k and 4k rpm. all in all the v10 seems to be a better pulling engine cause you can get the rpm's up, with my 460 5 speed i think it redlines at 4500 although not sure exactly the v10 runs 5k easy allowing you top keep the rpms high even after shifting with mine it drops off pretty low and loses kick. ken04 i know what your talking about with manifold trouble i had to replace my right hand one already with only 65000 miles on it. but i don't feel to bad cause my brothers v10 had three studs twist off in the head on the right hand side exhaust manifold. most be a ford thing. anyways i like the 460 cause its proven, its been around for years and you can't beat the rumble it has with flowmaster exhaust like mine has!

 
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2003 | 01:07 PM
  #42  
johnsdiesel's Avatar
johnsdiesel
Post Fiend
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 5,324
Likes: 1
From: Denton,TX
460 vs. V-10

"There's no replacement for displacement"

There's not a replacement, but there is a supplement and it's called technology. That explains why you can get more HP and torque from the current V10 than the 460 that it replaced. Sure, there is more room for power increases in a 460 engine, but most people on the road drive their vehicle in the stock configuration anyway.
 
Reply
Old Jan 8, 2003 | 05:31 PM
  #43  
V10KLZZ71S's Avatar
V10KLZZ71S
Fleet Mechanic
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,769
Likes: 7
From: Gretna ,LA.
460 vs. V-10

 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ironman1977
Big Block V8 - 385 Series (6.1/370, 7.0/429, 7.5/460)
65
Dec 27, 2020 06:19 PM
bsneed
Big Block V8 - 385 Series (6.1/370, 7.0/429, 7.5/460)
3
Dec 28, 2016 01:29 PM
Dmd56
Engine Swaps
1
Nov 15, 2015 03:22 PM
traveler110
1968-Present E-Series Van/Cutaway/Chassis
3
May 7, 2014 08:59 AM
jcbx
1968-Present E-Series Van/Cutaway/Chassis
16
Aug 1, 2009 12:29 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:10 PM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE