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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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The center terminal of the switch would go to the battery connection.
One side of the switch would go to the +12 switched connection.
The other side of the switch would go through a diode to 85 on the high speed relay, just like the A/C is connected.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:05 PM
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Like so:



How 'bout the LEDs?
 
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:09 PM
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BTW, because you are using a switch and desiring it to stay on by itself when the thermostat calls for it, do not hook the +12 switched source to a 12 switched source, LOL.

The switch you are installing is the switched source.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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I'm not sure I understand... You're saying NOT to connect that to a switched source (such as my ignition) but rather to a +12v constant because the 3-way switch I'm using IS the switch? But that would mean I would have to flick it to off whenever I get out of the truck correct? Because that is not what I want. I would like it to shut off when the truck shuts off, with the option of flipping the switch to the lower position to manually run the fan on high...
 

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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:23 PM
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Just like you have it wired now.

For it to stay on after everything is turned off the center of the switch has to go to an unswitched source.

It's late..........i'm tired LOL

You can by using a DPDT center off switch make it so that it stays on only for the thermostatically controlled position of the switch.

I'll post how in the morning.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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Awesome man. Hey I really appreciate it, didn't mean to put you out. I won't be doing this for a couple days anyways so no rush.

Anyone else that wants to comment on the way I currently have it wired please do, I have no clue if and how any of this circuit works, although I do know how to wire it luckily
 
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 11:26 PM
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If you want everything to shut off no mater what when you shut off the ignition, then just hook the center of the switch to a switched source instead of the battery source.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 01:23 AM
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ok, if you want the fan to run with the engine off, but want to have to worry about flipping off the switch instead of hooking the power source of the switch to the battery, connect it to a 12v switched source. That will make it work when the key is on, but the engine doesn't have to be running.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 05:55 AM
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For LED indicators, tie one side of the LED to ground and the other through a 1K resistor to terminal 85 of the relay you want to indicate as being on.

The 1K (1000 ohms) value is ballpark and will depend on the led's you use and the brightness desired.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 06:24 AM
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Great, thanks buddy. I'm gonna try to get scrape the parts together and have a crack at this tomorrow.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 06:29 AM
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BTW, you mentioned in your first post needing 80-90 amps.
I think 10 amp relays will be quite sufficient.
Make sure you get DC relays, not AC, but they can be AC/DC.
They might have them at Radio Shack.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 06:40 AM
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What makes you think 10 amp relays will suffice? I have read that the high speed spikes to 80-90amps when it first turns on and then levels out at around 40-50amps. How could a 10amp relay handle that?
 
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 07:49 AM
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The fan relays I have seen in cars are nowhere 50 amps.

As far as the turn on spikes, they kinda don't count because the relays are rated for their sustained current carrying capacity and of course have a much higher spike rating.

I may be wrong, but I doubt that the fan draws 50 amps continous.
You could test it by hooking it up to a battery first without a relay, and see how small of a fuse it will run on continously. I would start with 20 fuse then go lower.

50 Amps is a pretty big relay.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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SK, I hope your going to take pictures on which wires you hook into and the rest once your done. Those schematics are confusing. Of course your opinion on the electric vs the standard fan setup would be nice as well. There are conflicting opinions around these parts concerning the swap out.

B
 
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by netscaner
The fan relays I have seen in cars are nowhere 50 amps.

As far as the turn on spikes, they kinda don't count because the relays are rated for their sustained current carrying capacity and of course have a much higher spike rating.

I may be wrong, but I doubt that the fan draws 50 amps continous.
You could test it by hooking it up to a battery first without a relay, and see how small of a fuse it will run on continously. I would start with 20 fuse then go lower.

50 Amps is a pretty big relay.
Actually every e-fan relay in cars i have seen is 50 amps and over. The taurus fan he is referring too has a spike of 130 amps on startup and draws 40 amps continuous on high speed so a 10 amp relay would not hold up to that. A lot of writeups i have seen reccomend a heavy duty 75amp bosch relay.
 
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