Thinking about a 331 stroker
Posting Guru
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,955
Likes: 0
From: Quesnel, BC, Canada
lol I love these threads. Youve got enough room to put a friggin powerstroke under your hood and you want to spend the money to stroke a 302 out to 347 when ford made a 351 (352 actual cid) that is 5 more cubes and will swap directly in place of your 302.
Also you dont HAVE to rearrange the injector wiring...Ive debated the issue several times with people, only to learn that they have put HO/5.8L cams in their SD equipped 5.0Ls with the early firing order and they say that there is no problem at all running the computers firing order with the different cam firing order. All they had to do was move a couple spark plug wires.
Now I would be one to try their method, however moving a couple injectors around isnt too hard if it wont run right, and thats all youll need to do.
If I drive 6 hours I can pick up a complete 351w for $185 all day long at the pick n pull....a stroker 302 will cost 10x that much just for the shortblock parts alone.
Also you dont HAVE to rearrange the injector wiring...Ive debated the issue several times with people, only to learn that they have put HO/5.8L cams in their SD equipped 5.0Ls with the early firing order and they say that there is no problem at all running the computers firing order with the different cam firing order. All they had to do was move a couple spark plug wires.
Now I would be one to try their method, however moving a couple injectors around isnt too hard if it wont run right, and thats all youll need to do.
If I drive 6 hours I can pick up a complete 351w for $185 all day long at the pick n pull....a stroker 302 will cost 10x that much just for the shortblock parts alone.
Lead Driver
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 6,682
Likes: 12
From: Saskatoon SK Canada
We all know that the 351W is the better platform to build on but in some places you don't find roller 351W's in the junkyard. As far as cost goes it's not much more to stroke a 302 than a complete rebuild. It maybe costs $200-250 more. By the time you grind the crank and resize the rods, it's not much more to get a new crank and rods.
BTW I picked up a roller 302 for $100 CDN and I'm gonna stroke it to a 331. Things I like about my choice is I can call it a 5.4L and better choice of factory EFI intakes. I personally don't like the look of the truck intakes and I like my Explorer one.
BTW I picked up a roller 302 for $100 CDN and I'm gonna stroke it to a 331. Things I like about my choice is I can call it a 5.4L and better choice of factory EFI intakes. I personally don't like the look of the truck intakes and I like my Explorer one.
FTE Legend
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 31,930
Likes: 1,499
From: Ottawa, Ontario
Originally Posted by Triple_E_Farms
Pud. So your saying I could run a 5.8 with my FRPP mass air conversion for my 5.0?
FTE Legend
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 31,930
Likes: 1,499
From: Ottawa, Ontario
Originally Posted by Triple_E_Farms
I hit the post button to quick...
With out having to move pins, that sounds like its a bunch of trouble.
With out having to move pins, that sounds like its a bunch of trouble.
FTE Stories
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer
Joe Kucinski
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)
Brett Foote
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies
Joe Kucinski
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make
Brett Foote
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!
Michael S. Palmer
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home
Verdad Gallardo
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!
Joe Kucinski
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?
Brett Foote
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!
Michael S. Palmer
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 111
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Mr. M
For that price you could get a set of thumper e7 heads with reliable and repeatable flow numbers for your truck application.
I looked around on the thumber page and all I saw were roller cams I am running flat tappet. All the heads kept talking about running in the high 12's but I am not interested in jack rabbit starts I want to be able to put her in OD at 65 and it not have to down shift if I hit a little knoll. I need heads that flow alot more exhaust verses heads that have had intake work done also. I need torque big time. I know a 351 will create the torque but my truck came with a 302 so that is what I have to work with. While the thumper heads are only $150.00 more than the work I could have done to my heads I already own and have them opened up where my little 302 needs them to be and left alone where they are already good enough.
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 111
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Conanski
Naw.. it's no trouble really, I did it with my kit in a couple minutes. All you need is a pin extraction tool, it slides up into the connector around the wires and depresses the little barbs that keep the pins in place. You can then easily pull the wires out of the connector without damaging the pins.. works the same as the fuel line disconnect tool. http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles...in/D-Sub_H.jpg
I have thought about the 5.0 to 5.8 swap several times even bought a bronco with a 351 in it to swap them but it needed way too much work in the state it was in and I didn't realize it until I owned it.
I have a 460 or two laying around and thought about building one of them but was having trouble finding headers to fit my 1/2 ton 4x4 not to mention my aod has 137,000 miles on it and I don't know how long she would hold up behind a 7.5.
Elder User
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 843
Likes: 1
From: Redmond, WA
Originally Posted by Triple_E_Farms
I looked around on the thumber page and all I saw were roller cams I am running flat tappet. I need heads that flow alot more exhaust verses heads that have had intake work done also. I need torque big time. I know a 351 will create the torque but my truck came with a 302 so that is what I have to work with. While the thumper heads are only $150.00 more than the work I could have done to my heads I already own and have them opened up where my little 302 needs them to be and left alone where they are already good enough.
Originally Posted by Triple_E_Farms
I am not interested in jack rabbit starts I want to be able to put her in OD at 65 and it not have to down shift if I hit a little knoll. .
I'm sure a stroked 302... or a 351 with some well ported heads would do as you wish no problem.
Another one with no faith in the power of the 5.0!
I love it!
Too bad you're stuck with a flat tappet....
Last edited by Mr. M; Aug 7, 2007 at 11:32 PM.
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 111
Likes: 0
My 5.0 did fine until the 9 inches of lift and 38.5x16.50/15 rubber I do have 5.13 gears but not low enough. Before I got my 1tons this truck stock pulled every thing I needed pulled.
I don't really want to spend the 14 or 1500 dollars on some after market heads if $600 will help. I have only put 7,500 miles on it sense Dec. 2000. So I have alot of money invested in some thing that sits in the yard alot.
I don't really want to spend the 14 or 1500 dollars on some after market heads if $600 will help. I have only put 7,500 miles on it sense Dec. 2000. So I have alot of money invested in some thing that sits in the yard alot.
Elder User
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 843
Likes: 1
From: Redmond, WA
Originally Posted by Triple_E_Farms
My 5.0 did fine until the 9 inches of lift and 38.5x16.50/15 rubber I do have 5.13 gears but not low enough. Before I got my 1tons this truck stock pulled every thing I needed pulled.
I don't really want to spend the 14 or 1500 dollars on some after market heads if $600 will help. I have only put 7,500 miles on it sense Dec. 2000. So I have alot of money invested in some thing that sits in the yard alot.
I don't really want to spend the 14 or 1500 dollars on some after market heads if $600 will help. I have only put 7,500 miles on it sense Dec. 2000. So I have alot of money invested in some thing that sits in the yard alot.
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 111
Likes: 0
Here is a stupid question but if I bought some of those thumper E7 heads could I not get one of his head/cam packages and put it in my motor? I didn't know if that would even be possible. I was just thinking if I put a roller cam in it with those heads it would work.