hello i have a 97 diesel and have intake, exhaust, evolution, and stage 1 injectors. I am curious how much hp/tq I have at my wheels...any estimates would be good. It is an auto with 3.55s. Also i was wondering how much more power and smoke will I see with a dp tuner on 140 aggressive compared to my evolution at 100 extreme?

 

No guess on HP at the wheels. I would speculate your under 250 HP at the wheels. The problem with Evo with your stage 1's is from what all the guru's say bigger injectors with stock injector programming won't gain any horse power unless your bigger injectors have a larger nozzle. So in theory with your evo comparing stock injectors to stage 1's you have the same HP with either injectors.

Now when you get a DP tuner chip that is burned with stage 1's in mind you will have alot more power and a bunch more smoke. So with the addition of larger injectors you programming needs to be updated to reflect the injector change or you won't gain any HP.

 

If you have an Edge evo tuner you can have Dp files burned on to it by Jody at Dp-Tuner. Gotta love this new technology, lol. Maybe give him a call and see what he can set up for ya. Good luck

Cowboy Steve

 

jody is good for split shots, but tony wildman - http://stores.totaldieselperformance.com/StoreFront.bok is much better for our singles.
who's stage ones do you have? some people's 1's are like others 2's, some companies use stock nozzles others dont.
you will see an increase over stock with the evolution, but not as much as custom tuning designed for your specific injectors. before you get too crazy with programming, if you havent already you want to put a superduty 17 degree HPOP on there, because the OBS one cant keep up at full throttle high rpm.

 

Jody has had single shot injectors in his 2002 (build date July 2001) in his truck since early/mid 2002. Most of the earlier tunes Jody wrote in 2003 were for singles using his truck to test with.

Diane

 

not true, the CEL will go on when either the HPOP is putting out TOO MUCH or TOO LITTLE pressure, that HPOP will struggle a tiny bit with stage 1's but it won't really make any difference.. with stage 2's it'll be fine from like 0-55 before you see a CEL.. i mean this is all talking a HPOP with only like 50k on it.. i can give updates once i get my twildman tunes on my stage 2's on my truck

 

Hahahahahaha, Rookies these days. I would disregard this info and stick with the guru's who have been there and used that.

Diane, this guy dosnt know what true tunes are, lol, no worries. We all love ya!

Cowboy Steve

 

Don't be too harsh steve we still haven't welcomed him/her to the site yet. Please forgive us. Welcome and happy posting.

Zookie please explain yourself and the reply. You sound like you have good experience please share with us.

I pretty much agree with you but I need convincing. I plan on the HPOP from the SD. I do not have enough knowledge or experience to say whether DP or Tony is better I have heard both are awesome but I lean toward Tony for personal preferences.

 

WOW...well im definatly not a rookie, and i have run MANY different combos, on many different powerstrokes, new and old. (my personal truck is a 97)

as far as DP versus tony wildman, i found that although you can get about the same power from either, the EGT's were consistantly lower (average about 150*) with a wildman tune. as for the split shots, i would highly recommend DP, as the power is smoother and the dyno always showed more area under the curve.

when it comes to the HEUI pump, i have NEVER seen a pump (dual setups included) that pumped too much for an engine because the regulator regulates the pressure (imagine that...) by bleeding excess off. this goes for CAT, and International engines. i do know that all of my friends/clients who put bigger injectors in an OBS, get the engine light even on a small tow setting, until they upgrade to a better pump. check engine light aside, the dyno shows a clear mid-high rpm gain after the pump is upgraded.

didnt mean to get everybodies panties in a bunch, but i speak from my experiences. disagree if you want, id love to hear your opinions, but not your attitudes. just trying to help.

 

Zookie. Excellent reply. That is what I was hoping to hear. I plan to get bigger injectors aswell and I am presently looking into a SD HPOP. I think Steve was just brown nosing. LMFAO. just kiddin' Steve. Anyway does anybody know how to tell a SD pump that is 17*. I think the PN ends with 3 letters I think CRM or something like that.

 

(Ford) F81Z-9A543-CRM (99.5)

if your buying used the only way to tell the 17* pump from the exterior is the back cover will be humped the 15* is flat. But that said some of the 17* pumps also have a flat cover so you must remove the snap rign and rear cover to check and see if the rear support is a bearing or a bushing. if its a bearing its a 15* if it s a bushing its 17*


Zookie, great reply. Sometimes it pays to put as much detail in your post as possibel the first time so people don't go in the wrong direction with your info. Also please forgive Steve (powerstroked162). He doesn't know that some people have PSD knowledge before they come to this site! Just cause your new here doesn't mean your a rookie Powerstroker. Shame on you Steve!

 

So if I undestand correctly, Other than the plate on back or verifying bushing this part number is the 17*?

 

Yes if you buying a brand new pump that number is the one. If its a reman or used it should be verified.

 

I am looking at both reman and used but so far they have that same # so I believe I am safe.

 

There have been quite a few CRM pumps that have been found out to be 15* pump unless they are brand new so beware.

On second thought maybe they were humped cover pumps that were 15*. either way I would pull the back to check them before you commit to buy one. To get the cover off you remove the snap ring and clean the cover reall good then stick duct tape to it to pull it off. Once I had to weld a nut to the cover and thread a bolt into it to pull on. Luckily that was the pump I was going to disect and I only paid $25 for it.