Which Shotgun?
It's not a prefect measure of gun fit but it comes close and will give you an idea if the shotgun will mount naturally for you.
I also do this with my guns prior to hunting season, but only when my Charming Bride isn't home.
I have to disagree with the statement that the 1187 is much improved over the 1100.
It has been my experience (and I have years of it) behind my 1100 Magnum (1983 model) and the ONLY difference between the 1100 and the 1187 is the gas system.
The 1187 is NOT that much improved.
A good friend had to have a Remington 1187. He's had nothing but problems with that scattergun.
He put it in the back of his gunsafe and still reaches for his old 870 pump gun.
(Or his verrrrrrrrry heavy Ruger Red Label. But hey, he's carrying it, not me.)
My 1100 has given me NO problems, at all.
It came from the factory with a 30" Full choked barrel, which (at the time) was great for Canada geese, but, was not worth a poop for doves or squirrels, or heck, even pheasants. And despite it's 'simple' gas system, this 1100 would cycle everything from really light 2-3/4" loads to the heavy hitting 3" #2 copperplate 1-3/4 oz loads for geese that we used to use. (And interchangeably, too! This barrel was marked "Full", but, was actually choked "Extra Full" according to a local gunsmith.)
This 1100 Magnum has sported a Hastings 24" choke tubed barrel for everything for many, many years now.
This scattergun is my GO TO shotgun. IT FITS!!!!
My pheasant hunting buddies have said more than once, "When he has that 1100 in his hands. . . if it flies. . . it dies."
I love my 1100 so much, I bought another one. (Granted, it's older and a 'standard' 1100, but, for $100.00, I couldn't pass it up.
And with my loads (1-1/8 oz load at 1200 fps) it feels like I'm shooting a light 20 ga, or a 28 ga.
Heck. . ain't nothing wrong with the 1100!!! Nothing.
My wife (at the time, thank goodness she fooled around on me and left)
said that if I wanted to buy another gun. . . I had to sell one, first.(Did I say that I was glad that she left me??)
Anyway, I sold this 311, so that I could afford to buy my 1100.
Yes, it was a good shotgun. . . heavy. . but a good scattergun.
It was a great shotgun for use on doves!!!
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The Xtrema 2 carries 3.5" as well. I will also take a look at the Benelli.
This is all great advice...
i have used a browning gold hunter 3 1/2 for the last number of years for everything from dove the geese and have been happy with it
The improvement I was talking about with the 1187 is the chrome lined barrel and the synthetic stock. To shoot steel shot (as we are SUPPOSED to do when hunting migratory birds) in my 1100 would have ruined the barrel. I am not putting down the 1100, I still use mine for land rabbit and dove, just would have had to buy another barrel to shoot as much steel as I so I just added to my gun colection with the 1187 a few years ago. Always a good thing to do in my opinion!! We know guns are like women, we will take what we have but do have our preferences.
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The improvement I was talking about with the 1187 is the chrome lined barrel and the synthetic stock. To shoot steel shot (as we are SUPPOSED to do when hunting migratory birds) in my 1100 would have ruined the barrel. I am not putting down the 1100, I still use mine for land rabbit and dove, just would have had to buy another barrel to shoot as much steel as I so I just added to my gun colection with the 1187 a few years ago. Always a good thing to do in my opinion!! We know guns are like women, we will take what we have but do have our preferences.
Steel shot or 'Hevi shot' or whatever. . . Bismuth, etc. that is legal for waterfowl would tear the 'you know what' out of my old 1100 Magnum barrel.
That's why that barrel hasn't been used since Steel was mandated back in. . . what. . .the mid to late '80s???
Maryland doesn't require steel (shot) when hunting mourning dove (which are migratory - see your post, above). Just for waterfowl.
As for hunting waterfowl, I haven't been in many, many years.
If I were to start up, again. . . I'd probably take my 870 SuperMag w/synthetic stock (w/ Limbsaver® pad) and find some steel or hevi-shot to use in it.
(Just don't have enough 'free' time, anymore.)
Regards,
Keith







