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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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Question Wicked Wheel....Worth it?

Do you guys with the wicked wheel think that it made a big difference or is it not worth the headache of doing the install...It seems like a lot of work for something that wouldnt SEEM to do a whole lot
 
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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it got rid of surge for me so in effect it was well worth it. I know it moves your surge point, but for all intents and purposes it "cures" surge pretty well. If you have surge its cheap and pretty easy to do.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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i'm not quite sure what you mean by surge...
 
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 04:23 PM
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Behold the video......turbo surge.

http://videos.thefourwheelerpage.com...567651dc70.htm
 
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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i hear the turbo flutter when i have it at 20 psi only when it shifts and blows off... I really notice it since i put my cold air intake on is this surge?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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I would think so my 2000 was bad I had 4 inch dynoflow exhaust and fipk and banks 6 gun with dpt set on tow. It would do it on the slitest hill. put the w wheel in and have no surge when pulling . I can turn the dpt up and make it from time to time. I would say well worth the cash.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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I had my first experience with surge last night. I was loading the engine, I believe while it was in overdrive and it probably should have downshifted but I rolled into the throttle a little bit. It definitely surged until I backed off and slammed down on the throttle a little harder and kicked it down a gear and voila, no more surge.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 05:43 PM
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Surge is when you are are in a loaded configuration - either pulling a trailer or a steep grade. It will usually show up when the tranny is about to shift down out of overdrive and it sounds like someone is taking a sword and cutting through your intake stream. ie chop chop chop in rapid succession. When the tranny shifts down it will usually go away. The Wicked wheel will defiantly help out. The blow off you here when it shifts is just that Excess air being blown off. I know there is a better TECHNICAL description but you probably get the idea. Yes I my opinion the WW is well worth it.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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I've only experienced surge in my truck once and that was with the wastegate disconnected. It surged so bad that it scared me and I hooked right back up again and haven't touched it again.

Maybe it's because our part of Texas is as flat as a pancake or maybe it's because my truck never really has to do much work but I just do not have surge. I have found that if I crank the tuner up and really lay on it from a dead stop and boil the tires that as she is coming up to speed I can get this chirping type sound. I don't usually drive like that though so it's not an issue for me.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 02:09 AM
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i dopnt get the surge when i'm in the throttle i just get it as it blows off the air i kinda like the sound but i dont think what i'm hearing is surge
 
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 05:45 AM
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That's not surge. But, I just put one on my truck a couple days ago, and I wasn't exactly sure I was surge it was getting when I disconnected my wastegate line. Now I know it was. When I would nail it really hard, I was getting 26-28psi of boost, and I'd hear "pst-pst-pst...." Since the descriptions everyone told me was more of a "chuffa-chuffa..." sound, I wasn't sure. Now, with the WW, I get more whistle (definitely a cool new sound!!), boost tops out a 25psi without the wastegate which is right where it should with a stock turbo, and no more "pst-pst-pst...". Worth it all the way around in my case, and it was NOT that hard to put in. If you read the directions and take your time, you'll do okay.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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The WW sounds like a real turbo and it won't surge unless you push enough fuel to run the EGT's beyond 1300 degrees.
Listen to mine pulling a big hill in Utah.
I made this recording before I resealed my exhaust up-pipes. Now it spools even more.

http://home.comcast.net/~kwikkordead/Wicked_Wheel.mp3

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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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I used to get bad surge even without a load of any kind right at 55 or so put the WW in and she really sings ,lost a little on the bottom end I can't fry all four tires just by nail'n the go pedal like I used to but that's ok ,I have to try to smok'm now. I really happy with the mod.
 
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