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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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Steering column removal

Body off project in progress. I have a 1950 F-1. So far I have removed the rear fenders and the bed. Now all bolts for the body and front end have been remove. Parking brake cable removed. The remaining item is the steering column. I removed the horn and the nut. I have tried pressure from the bottom with a mallet, no luck. I didn't see any tab or pin holding the wheel on. No way to attach my wheel puller. Someone HELP before I fire up the grinder and cut the column. I would like to salvage the front and rear suspensions and column for someone who may need them after I replace mine. Have a great day. Thanks,chuck
 
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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Most the of the time there are two 5/16" fine thread holes on either side of the spined shaft inside the wheel. I have had trucks that didn't have the holes and I had to drill and tap the holes. Other times the gunk is so hard packed in the holes you can't see them and you have to dig around to find them. Either way I always rethread the nut on until it even with the top edge of the the shaft to protect the threads and then I use a large headed bolt that fits inside the shaft for the wheel puller to push against. Some times the mallet from behind works but I prefer using a wheel puller.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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Steering column

This appears to be the original steering system. There are no holes to attach puller bolts. There is just a flat area that looks like a washer around the threaded shaft. Flat area will not come out. I dug down beside washer looking area, no botton in sight, must be part of wheel. This seems to be the best way to remove column unless the only way is to remove the steering box and pull it through the floor board. Help, more suggestions please. thanks,chuck
 
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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Bob's got it. The splines are the tightest on the whole vehicle. Try to avoid hammering because if is bad for the steering box, you are essentially hammering the worm against the sector when you bang on the wheel.

An alternate way if you have a bearing splitter (for rear axle bearings that are pressed on, it's two half-circles that bolt together -- see below) is to put that behind the wheel and then use the shaft to press against as Bob described. It is more likely to ruin the wheel, but a lot of them aren't pretty anymore anyway.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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The way we used to remove them: Unthread the nut until it is flush with the top of the shaft. Sit in the driver's seat, put your knees behind the wheel near the rim. Brace your feet against something solid so you can put a good pressure behind the wheel. Hit the center of the shaft with a big hammer while pushing. One or two whacks would usually pop them loose.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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Go to autozone and rent(free) a steering wheel puller. Go to hardware sore and get the natching drill bit and tap.

You will save yourself sooooo much stress.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 01:41 AM
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I had a puller and the threaded holes in the wheel I even left the nut on a few threads to protect the shaft. But the steering wheel was rusted so bad onto the splines it smashed the threads some. I tried several times to rethread it with a 7/16" fine thread die, but was never able to get the nut to go on. I have been driving it for the last 3 years with the threading die in place of the nut. I saw a two piece threading die that you could put on the threads and back it off to rethread the part. It was used for the bolt threads on the rear axle shaft threads that hold the brake drums on, it had a bunch of different size thread options on it. I sure wish I could find another but I really need to convert to Toyota box anyhow.
 

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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 06:05 AM
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Yeah, my 48 F3 didn't have any holes for a puller either but the steering wheel wasn't in very good shape to begin with so I kept pounding with a 5 lb sledge until it came off in pieces. Sometimes that's all you can do. Good luck with it...
 
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Originally Posted by 49fordpickumup
Body off project in progress. I have a 1950 F-1. So far I have removed the rear fenders and the bed. Now all bolts for the body and front end have been remove. Parking brake cable removed. The remaining item is the steering column. I removed the horn and the nut. I have tried pressure from the bottom with a mallet, no luck. I didn't see any tab or pin holding the wheel on. No way to attach my wheel puller. Someone HELP before I fire up the grinder and cut the column. I would like to salvage the front and rear suspensions and column for someone who may need them after I replace mine. Have a great day. Thanks,chuck
Here's a thought: If all you want to do is save the whole thing for someome else, why not leave the wheel on the column when you pull it out, and let the next guy worry about getting it off? Unbolt the box, the pitman arm, and the floor plate and pull the box out thru the interior. It's easier to take it out that way anyhow.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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Hi Chuck
I had the same problem on my 50f1 I finally took out the whole thing like AX said. I'm not going to use it anyway. Lots easier than fighting with it for hours. Makes getting the cab off a lot easier to. ............RUSTY
 
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 09:54 AM
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thanks for helping me decide how -I'm- gonna do it. I will just go ahead and loosen the steering box (soon as I buy a socket big enough) and pull the whole thing from inside the cab. Wasn't sure it could be done but now I know. Thanks again

Anyone want a steering column with wheel? lol
 
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Go to Autozone and Rent a pitman arm puller, that will be your next hassle.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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Steering wheel

Thanks to everyone for the options available. I gripped the steering and tilted it up/down and the wheel spot welds gave way. The only thing remaining is the inner steel ring. Thanks for pitman arm information also. I hope to sandblast the frame in the next couple weeks. Thanks again to all. Have a great day,chuck
 
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pitman arm puller. what's that, mine fell off. LOL. .........RUSTY
 
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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The Ford pitman arm was easy to get off, the Toyota that came on the steering box I bought was put on by Godzilla! I broke a bench vise trying to take the nut off with a 36" pipe wrench, and heated it as much as I dared risking the seals. I finally split the nut and pitman arm with a cutoff wheel and cold chisel to get them off!
 
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