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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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Starting problem - please help!

On my last three trips pulling my camper, my X will not start immediately after arriving and unhooking the camper. I have a 2000 v-10. Changing batteries and cleaning the terminals has not helped, it appears to be a temperature issue. The engine will start after about an hour of cooling off, but before that I can turn the key and everything on the dask will light up, but nothing happens, no click, no nothing. On another forum, some have suggested it is a starter problem, that the long trips give the starter time to heat up. I do not have this issue around town. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what else it might be. Also, if it is the starter, is this a big deal to change? I remember changing my parents on their LTD many years ago, I think there were two bolts to deal with. Thanks.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 12:30 AM
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Iam no v 10 expert but I think the starter would be the problem. My friend had a problem when towing his trailer a while back took it to the dealer and got and new starter worked fine after hope this helps
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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I had a simliar issue on an F150 and the starter brushes were worn. They would lose contact with the commutator. I smacked it with a wooden block and it would start. Sometimes the starter drive will also have a burned contact and cause high resistance and not start. I just bought a new starter and kept thing simple. That was 4 years ago and never had another start issue.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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A new starter was put on it today, it does start a lot stronger than before. The other electrical stuff checked out okay, so I hope this fixes the problem.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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A new starter was put on it today, it does start a lot stronger than before. The other electrical stuff checked out okay, so I hope this fixes the problem.
Glad it worked out ok,, You are probably good to go now.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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Theres a chance it could have been getting heat soaked and wouldnt start because of that. Big block chevys with headers sometimes had this issue. A long trailor pull may have gotten things really hot and caused an already dieing starter solenoid to temporarily fail. An old trick was to take a towel soaked in water and folded up and lay it on the top of the starter to help cool it off if you needed to get going again. Obviously not a solution but this may help someone in the future if they find themselve stuck and need to get going.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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Well, I still have my problem. Drove around town today and it has not started twice. After it cools down, it will start. Starter has been replaced. Any ideas?
 
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Is the starter relay on the starter on these or is it built onto the starter like GM does? If its separate id go ahead and change the starter solenoid as theres a 90% chance thats your problem. Being used to working on GM's i assumed it was on the starter. Honestly the ford design that keeps em separate is nicer in my opinion.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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Is the starter relay on the starter on these or is it built onto the starter like GM does? If its separate id go ahead and change the starter solenoid as theres a 90% chance thats your problem. Being used to working on GM's i assumed it was on the starter. Honestly the ford design that keeps em separate is nicer in my opinion.
change the starter solenoid
 
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I just went for another spin, go home and it would not start. So I went under the hood and thumped what I beleive to be the ignition module, I am not sure. It is a silver box behind the battery, close to the fire wall. After I did that, the truck started on the first try.

I think there is a silenoid as part of the starter, but I think there is also one up around the battery. The one on the starter was replaced, at least it is shinny.
 
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There is usually what looks like a hump on the starter, this houses the electro magnet that pulls in the starter drive and not the solenoid. The solenoid is located on the passenger side of the truck about 6" to the rear of the battery mounted on the fender well. If you change this be sure to disconnect the battery. There is a lot of power in the main input lead that is directly connected to the battery. A short will do a lot of damage. So play safe and disconnect both batteries before changing this part.
 
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vettduvr, can you describe to me what it looks like. Please pardon my ignorance, but I am not a mechanic. I do see a cylinder connected to the starter, so I am assuming that is the solenoid on the starter. If there is one on the fender area as well, it does not look like the one connected to the starter.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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It will be about 3"x3" black.round with a flat mounting plate. Trace the + lead from the battery It should go straight to it. It is in the + lead from the battery to the starter. You should see it on the passenger fender with the lead from the battery.


There will be two large terminals that are usually copper colored and at least 1 smaller terminal with a small wire. Sometimes there are 2 depending on how your system is grounded. If I knew how to post a pic on this board I would take a photo and send you one. If you Private Mail me your email address I will send you a pic tomorrow.
 
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