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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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Horsepower Question

How much horsepower and torque should a K&N air filter and a 5" turbo back exhaust add to a 2002 7.3. I know the stock numbers are 215 h.p. and 425 torque. Thanks.



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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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You would see around 10-15hp at the wheels with those mods.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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a stock 2002 7.3 puts out 250hp and 525 ft lb tq
 
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by wlihntr
a stock 2002 7.3 puts out 250hp and 525 ft lb tq
At the flywheel... about 215 to the rear wheels... if your lucky.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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I hope you guys didn't misunderstand me. I'm saying the filter and exhaust are giving him 15hp more at the wheels.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CSIPSD
At the flywheel... about 215 to the rear wheels... if your lucky.
of course at the flywheel, that is how all power out put is rated.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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Thanks u guys, but what about torque
 

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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by wlihntr
of course at the flywheel, that is how all power out put is rated.
Sweet! That means I am pushing over 500hp!!! Frickin cool! I am the only 7.3 in the country with PMR's pushing 500hp...

Sorry boss you are wrong, factory rates them at the fly wheel because they can test them at the fly wheel... For everyone else its the rear wheel horsepower...
 
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CSIPSD
Sweet! That means I am pushing over 500hp!!! Frickin cool! I am the only 7.3 in the country with PMR's pushing 500hp...

Sorry boss you are wrong, factory rates them at the fly wheel because they can test them at the fly wheel... For everyone else its the rear wheel horsepower...
Well you may well be at the flywheel. I think he was just quoting factory #s. We all know it is what is happenning at the rear wheels is what matters. There is no other way for us regular guys to measure it.

Now the manufacturer will place the engine on an engine dyno in front of an industry tech IOT confirm the quoted rating. That is how the manufacturers compete, at the flywheel. We compete at the rear wheels. Curiously, there is no way to be sure the engine on the dyno is not a ringer and therefore a one time fluke. But that is how it is done from what I understand. One engine, one test, and there you have it.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CSIPSD
Sweet! That means I am pushing over 500hp!!! Frickin cool! I am the only 7.3 in the country with PMR's pushing 500hp...

Sorry boss you are wrong, factory rates them at the fly wheel because they can test them at the fly wheel... For everyone else its the rear wheel horsepower...

thats right...factory rates them at the fly wheel...what else where you talking about...some pie in the sky dyno number that is effected by the type of dyno, the correction factor used, the guy runnng the dyno, ect
i was talking about what the engine HP and tq is rated at BY THE FACTORY i have no idea why you have some "rear wheel power" fixation? i dont care if you are making 1000hp with PMR's ...good for you all i was saying is that the hp and tq rating for his truck is 250hp and 525 of tq...he was quoting 96-97 numbers for his truck. with your obvious vast knowledge of PSD's i would of thought you would recognise that??
 
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 12:48 AM
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thats right...factory rates them at the fly wheel...what else where you talking about...some pie in the sky dyno number that is effected by the type of dyno, the correction factor used, the guy runnng the dyno, ect
i was talking about what the engine HP and tq is rated at BY THE FACTORY i have no idea why you have some "rear wheel power" fixation? i dont care if you are making 1000hp with PMR's ...good for you all i was saying is that the hp and tq rating for his truck is 250hp and 525 of tq...he was quoting 96-97 numbers for his truck. with your obvious vast knowledge of PSD's i would of thought you would recognise that??
Wow... your a smart one huh... Then tell me what does Banks, Bullydog, TS, DI ,ATS, DP, Edge, Superchips use for published HP gains with there products... REAR WHEEL HORSEPOWER NUMBERS... That little number on your valve cover means JACK... Your getting about 215 hp to the rear wheels stock.

FYI, all of my Dyno runs have always been very consistent and even across different dynos, altitudes and operators...
 
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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Wow... your a smart one huh... Then tell me what does Banks, Bullydog, TS, DI ,ATS, DP, Edge, Superchips use for published HP gains with there products... REAR WHEEL HORSEPOWER NUMBERS...
hmmm, because its alot easier to strap a truck to a dyno than it is to pull the engine and messure the power and the flywheel?

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That little number on your valve cover means JACK... Your getting about 215 hp to the rear wheels stock.
i never said it ment anything other than that is what the engine is rated at
 
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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How much horsepower and torque should a K&N air filter and a 5" turbo back exhaust add to a 2002 7.3. I know the stock numbers are 215 h.p. and 425 torque. Thanks.

2002 F-350 SRW
Hypertech Chip
4" Down Pipe
5" Exhaust
K&N Free-Flow Air filter

UM... toproller, maybe this is a little off the topics, but you may want to reconsider the K&N you're running. I've seen a lot of info in here that shows that the K&N isn't good for your turbo (lets in too much dirt). There are plenty of ex-K&N users in here too who have made that discovery and switched over to either the 6637, AFE, or AIS systems.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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Yeah, I switched to the 6637 from the K&N. Didn't notice a difference but based on the info I learned here I am probably saving the life of my Turbo. Country
 
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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Thanks for the info F250
 
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