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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 06:31 PM
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Great recommendation by Fireman. I know if my heads ever come off a set of ARP head studs will be going in.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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I would try to get the dealer to install ARP head studs instead of the factory ford studs. The trick to this is how you handle your service writer and your relationship with them. Some dealers will not do this for you. By the way, you will have to buy the studs yourself, cheapest I found on the net was Summit racing. 563 bucks overnight delivery. I just mine done a few weeks ago. That should take care of the head gasket issues.
I read that Ford upgraded the studs for the 6.4 and that most of the 07 6.0's have the new studs. If that is true then the dealer will most likely use the new improved studs anyway.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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just got back from the mountains, fun vacation, not so fun trip. started by overheating climing a grade. granted i was towing a 6000 lb trailer, but at 11 at night, at 45-50 mph! i have also nitced that it will not tow faster than 55 on flatland without overheating. secondly, went to fire it up to leave and the trany wouldnot engage. i messed with some fuses and nothing. after 20 min, i shut it off, started it back up, and it worked, the tow/haul light was also flashing. i'm at a loss, the dealer cant get to it for a few days. any thought would be greatly appreciated.
its an 05 4x4 with 50000,
Sorry to hear this. Ford will fix the motor if there is a problem but I'm not sure if the tranny will be covered. Here is what I would throw at the Ford rep. The engine overheated because of a defective engine which caused my transmission fluid to overheat causing failure. I would yell and carry on and at least get a partial credit on the tranny repair. Then when all fixed make darn sure you fill it with a pure synthetic tranny fluid that would break down with heat.
Good luck
 
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 06:41 AM
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i thought about the head studs, but with 50k still left under warranty, i didnt want to void anything just yet... ill just make sure i blow it up at 98,000!!!
 

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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 07:48 AM
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Ford doesn't use studs they use bolts--definite difference. Some dealers will install the studs instead of the torque-to-yield factory bolts under warranty if you supply them but talk to your dealer before purchase.

The 5R110 torqshift tranny fluid is full synthetic already--Mercon SP and the only one you can run in that tranny.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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So I stopped by to check up on the truck. They got it all torn apart. must say, I never thought I would see the inside of my 6.0. Anyway, they just got the heads back from the machine shop, and ohh boy! BOTH heads are cracked!!! I am now starting to get slightly concerned about the motor now. I have heard of some dealers replacing the motor all together when this happened. Is it common? I think it is something I am going to persue.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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Personally I'd rather have new heads than go through breaking in another block assembly. If you can look at the cylinder bores you can probably still see the machining marks where they honed the cylinders. It's just really getting broken in good, however you might want to insist they check the block deck for flatness also.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 08:52 AM
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So I stopped by to check up on the truck. They got it all torn apart. must say, I never thought I would see the inside of my 6.0. Anyway, they just got the heads back from the machine shop, and ohh boy! BOTH heads are cracked!!! I am now starting to get slightly concerned about the motor now. I have heard of some dealers replacing the motor all together when this happened. Is it common? I think it is something I am going to persue.
Wow! How did you do this? What did they say caused this?
 
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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The dealer had no clue as to how this happened. For all they knew, the gaskets were just blown. They got the top end put back together later fri. evening. It fired up and ran. They are still waiting to hook up the lap top and do a test run. hopefully I will get it back today or tom. Once I do I will check the build date to see if it fell into the time period when some of them shipped from the factory with out-of-spec/untorqued heads.

Does anyone know the dates when those motors were built/shipped?

Now its just sown to dealing with the trany. A friend who works in a service dept is calling her friend over at ford to see if they can get the trany taken care of. I'm not getting my hopes up though.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 08:11 AM
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The dealer had no clue as to how this happened. For all they knew, the gaskets were just blown. They got the top end put back together later fri. evening. It fired up and ran. They are still waiting to hook up the lap top and do a test run. hopefully I will get it back today or tom. Once I do I will check the build date to see if it fell into the time period when some of them shipped from the factory with out-of-spec/untorqued heads.

Does anyone know the dates when those motors were built/shipped?

Now its just sown to dealing with the trany. A friend who works in a service dept is calling her friend over at ford to see if they can get the trany taken care of. I'm not getting my hopes up though.
The tranny is a different issue but may be related. I wonder if the poorly operating engine system didn't cause the tranny to spend to much time not locked up leading to premature failure? Please keep us posted on what you find out. Good luck
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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the dealer route was a no go.

took the truck to a private shop and shelled out the money for a rebuild. it was pricey, but everything has been upgraded and beefed up. after driving it fo a while now, i love it. mpg actually went up too.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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I read that Ford upgraded the studs for the 6.4 and that most of the 07 6.0's have the new studs. If that is true then the dealer will most likely use the new improved studs anyway.
I believe that Ford will only use bolts and not studs, and I think the hesitation or unwillingness by Ford to install studs is becuase of the labor involved with pulling the cab off to install the studs. This is not required if installing bolts.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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happy to hear you finally got your truck back together. Wish ford woulda helped you out some with the tranny. Congrats on getting the truck back
 
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by MOB.Diesel-350
the dealer route was a no go.

took the truck to a private shop and shelled out the money for a rebuild. it was pricey, but everything has been upgraded and beefed up. after driving it fo a while now, i love it. mpg actually went up too.
Wait a minute, Ford fixed the engine but won't fix the tranny when the tranny failure may have been caused by the engine failure? I would not let this one go and would apeal to higher ups at Ford. Make them pay at least part of it. Yes, the afternarket tranny upgrades are a definate improvement. Your increased mileage may be caused by the engine repairs alone but an upgraded tranny can help *** well.

Happy to hear your truck is up and running, and hopefully for a kazillion trouble free miles as well!.
 
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