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just got back from the mountains, fun vacation, not so fun trip. started by overheating climing a grade. granted i was towing a 6000 lb trailer, but at 11 at night, at 45-50 mph! i have also nitced that it will not tow faster than 55 on flatland without overheating. secondly, went to fire it up to leave and the trany wouldnot engage. i messed with some fuses and nothing. after 20 min, i shut it off, started it back up, and it worked, the tow/haul light was also flashing. i'm at a loss, the dealer cant get to it for a few days. any thought would be greatly appreciated.
its an 05 4x4 with 50000,
Last edited by MOB.Diesel-350; Jul 9, 2007 at 12:54 PM.
dealer wont even look at it for two days, might take it to another one. no warning lights either
Go to Kragen auto parts or Auto Zone. They both have the borrow a tool program. You can borrow an OBDII scanner to read the codes. DO NOT CLEAR THE CODES if you decide to go this route. Read the codes and write them down. There are a bazillion guys out there that'll help you make sense of them.
went to auto zone, their scanner didn't pull any codes, the guy said it was because there was no check engine light.
No codes is good... The "guy" could be just a parts pusher and not know his butt from a flank steak. Truth be told; the CEL is not a requisite of codes. To not have codes is not a silver lining either. Intermittent issue can be tricky, as I'm sure you know. When you get to the dealer, they will likely try their super-trick reader on your truck. Don't be surprised if they find codes. Even if they don't, they may run a data-logger to "look" at engine performance in real-time. depending on your mileage, it'll only cost you a Benjamin to get it fixed.
so i took the truck to the dealer this morning, $252.00 just to try and diagnose the problems
It should be $100.00 if you still have warranty in effect! DO NOT let them get you to buy-in to an out of warranty thing if they claim to find nothing. Please clarify to us what it is they told you about the $252.00 charge...
so i took the truck to the dealer this morning, $252.00 just to try and diagnose the problems
In your original post, you stated you have a 2005 with 50,000 miles on it. The diagnostics etc, should be covered under the 5/100K powertrain warranty which has a $100 deductible per visit. What is the dealers reasoning for charging you this amount of money?
i asked the dealer about the warranty, he said its just for the motor, the trany is not covered, hence the extra cost.
they pressure tested the coolant system, and it checked out ok. talking to some other people i know, they thought it sounded like a head gasket. and what do ya know, that was the next thing they were going to try and diagnose.
they were also able to pull two codes for the trany. i believe they were p2700 and p2701. basically it sounded like the clutchpacks. they are now going to drop the pan and look for any debri.
BLOWN HEAD GASKET(s)! they havent pulled the motor apart yet, but they foud fuel in the coolant, and you can feel pressure when you put your hand over the rad filler, all indicating blown gaskets. but is this common an a stock motor? i have the banks turbo back exhaust, and thats it. so what caused it?
test drove an 08 by the way. nice but not impressed enough to deal with all the emissions crud. even with all her probs, ill keep my 6-oh.
BLOWN HEAD GASKET(s)! they havent pulled the motor apart yet, but they foud fuel in the coolant, and you can feel pressure when you put your hand over the rad filler, all indicating blown gaskets. but is this common an a stock motor? i have the banks turbo back exhaust, and thats it. so what caused it?
test drove an 08 by the way. nice but not impressed enough to deal with all the emissions crud. even with all her probs, ill keep my 6-oh.
It is not common on a stock motor but it does happen. Depending when your 05 was built, it may have fell into the range of motors that got a bad set of heads. There were some engines equipped with heads that did not meet the flatness specifications which led to headgaket failures, also some engines were shipped with the head bolts improperly torqued at the factory. So in short yes it does happen to stock 6.0 motors. Hope they get you all fixed up.
i stopped by the dealer today, they are going to start working on the motor on monday. the other thing i wanted to see was the trany pan once they pulled it off. there was a lot of crud in there. the tech said it was clutch material and a lot more than should have been there. it was almost coating the bottom of the pan!
they want to tear it down just to look at it further. my question is if its already going to get torn apart, would i be better off just to go ahead and do a rebuild on it?
if i do, i dont think i want to have them do it, as they quoted me almost $1500 in labor alone. anyone know of any good shops in the CA central valley (stockton, tracy, modesto, turlock,etc.)?
I would try to get the dealer to install ARP head studs instead of the factory ford studs. The trick to this is how you handle your service writer and your relationship with them. Some dealers will not do this for you. By the way, you will have to buy the studs yourself, cheapest I found on the net was Summit racing. 563 bucks overnight delivery. I just mine done a few weeks ago. That should take care of the head gasket issues.