>>>Cooper STT's!
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Yea, they look and are wider. Toyos are all 13 or 13.5 and BFG and Cooper are all 12.5 in the 35 & 37's.
The 12.5 width range is better IMO for a tall tire if you want it to tuck in the fender wells.
The 12.5 width range is better IMO for a tall tire if you want it to tuck in the fender wells.
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Originally Posted by a-rod
Which ones do you think are the tallest? I always thought the BFGs looked pretty tall. I agree the toyos look wider.
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Originally Posted by Jeepincj7
Toyos are definitely taller. They are very close to a true 37s. BFG 37s measure around 35.8" tall.
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My coopers are wearing like crap. I'm just glad the price was right. I have heard the same thing from more than one person though that Cooper changed their compound and hope my next set wears better. I got AT's thinking they would last longer. Nope. Won't make 25,000 guaranteed. The completely suck in the mud too. SST's here I come...........
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Originally Posted by nzirbel
My coopers are wearing like crap. I'm just glad the price was right. I have heard the same thing from more than one person though that Cooper changed their compound and hope my next set wears better. I got AT's thinking they would last longer. Nope. Won't make 25,000 guaranteed. The completely suck in the mud too. SST's here I come...........
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Originally Posted by mikedeason
Right now the new STT's are the best bet going for M/'T's.
Deeper sidewall tread and harder compound. The Toyo's got some catching up.
Deeper sidewall tread and harder compound. The Toyo's got some catching up.
For soemone who has only been running the tire for a couple weeks, that is a pretty bold statement.
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Just as I suspected, The 37" SST is only D-rated with a load rating of 3525lbs. It measured at 36.9" tall with a 17x9 wheel.
The Toyo is slightly taller at 37.1, and has the E-rating with a 4300lb rating.
Almost 800lbs per tires is a huge difference.
Price seems to be around the same too. 37" SSTs run around $280/tire. I did see one place for around $246/tire though.
IMHO, I think you can't go wrong with either tire unless you tow on a regular basis. I recently slapped a 12,000lb trailer on the *** end of my excursion and pulled it from SoCal to Colorado when we moved. It was everything in a 4bdrm house I could fit into a 24ft enclosed. The Toyos barely squated at 65psi.
The Toyo is slightly taller at 37.1, and has the E-rating with a 4300lb rating.
Almost 800lbs per tires is a huge difference.
Price seems to be around the same too. 37" SSTs run around $280/tire. I did see one place for around $246/tire though.
IMHO, I think you can't go wrong with either tire unless you tow on a regular basis. I recently slapped a 12,000lb trailer on the *** end of my excursion and pulled it from SoCal to Colorado when we moved. It was everything in a 4bdrm house I could fit into a 24ft enclosed. The Toyos barely squated at 65psi.
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I think toyo MTs have a better ply rating as well. My good buddy just got done running some cooper stts and got about 20k out of them, plus pieces of the tread were tearing off. And theres no way the rubber is harder, unless they recently changed that like said.
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Yea, the Toyo and STT's are almost exactly the same height in the 37's but the Toyos are wider. I would have had to do some trimming and the Toyos would have stuck out past the fender flares which I hate.
Plus the STT's just look way cooler.
And as an added bonus, Cooper is an American company while Toyo is Japanese.
Putting Jap tires on a Ford truck just don't feel right somehow.
Plus the STT's just look way cooler.
And as an added bonus, Cooper is an American company while Toyo is Japanese.
Putting Jap tires on a Ford truck just don't feel right somehow.
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Thats okay... none of them are as good as the Wrangler MT/R. Thought I'd stir the pot a little more. Its technically just my opinion, but thats the tire I run on a competition mud truck.
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Originally Posted by a-rod
I like the looks of the Goodyear MT/Rs, Ive just heard they wear fast.
i can't complain one bit about my MTZ's... 20k miles and awesome wear... nice and flat, no tears, and great manners still. i had the BFG muds on my last truck and they were great; wear-wise, about the same as the MTZ's, but the mickey's are much better in the rain and on ice/slippery snow.
i considered the STT's... a great looking tire (and not too bad manners-wise from what i've heard locally). "the best" looking tire? i'm not sure about that... but the price is right.
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Originally Posted by Matts72
Thats okay... none of them are as good as the Wrangler MT/R. Thought I'd stir the pot a little more. Its technically just my opinion, but thats the tire I run on a competition mud truck.
I've run several sets on my comp crawler rigs throughout the years. Not the best tire in mud though compared to a swamper or some others.
I switched to Toyo a couple years ago. They hook up better in the rocks than the MTR. And last year's Baja 1000 winner ran them on his truck(Robby Gordon).
Having run Irok Swampers(twice), Toyo M/Ts(twice), BFG M/Ts(never again), and three sets of MTRs. The Toyo is still my pic for the hardcore guy, or the guy who streets his rig.